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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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the global radio alliance

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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paid to black bespoke radio

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masses yeah man

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how you doing how you doing today's

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tuesday january 5th

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2021

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five days into the new year only 360

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they're just clicking by aren't they we

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are live from a bunker somewhere in the

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middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south

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far and near this

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for kjcr the game changer network and

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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january 5th

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tonight what's going on around the

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it's going down tonight i'm fade to

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we're gonna be talking about the

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triangle ufo image that is circulating

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around those secret three letter

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agencies in washington dc

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yeah we're gonna be talking about that

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tonight and uh

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bob can can i say

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bob um text me bob i know you're

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20 second delay can i tell everybody

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where you are

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right now he's

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he is in the thick of things man

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uh right now as we speak yeah bob i'm

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i'm watching

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just go ahead and text me right here or

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text me on my phone too

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whatever's easier can i disclose

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you know what we'll save that for when

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you come on the show i'll let you

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disclose it

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all right and then tomorrow night right

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here very excited

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isaac arthur is here we're going to be

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talking future science i kind of gave

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some of the things we're going to be

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measurement and observation

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entanglement all of that

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bob bob is on the border

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uh uh between uh alabama and georgia

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just across the state line

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as we speak so there you go bob will be

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with us at the bottom of the hour

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tomorrow night isaac arthur is here

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and then of course thursday night is

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another fader night with open lines all

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last night so i uh talked about

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and i'm trying to get to sleep and i'm

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unbelievable i wish the fader knots

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uh could be here with me right now

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because they would just be laughing

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because that's exactly they were

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this physicist last night say i don't

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don't know measurement i have no idea

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okay all right so that's tomorrow night

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future science and if you haven't been

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that is uh so i tightened up the screws

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i need to uh wd-40

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that but it's tight now at least it's

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oh that was that shrimp salad i had for

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oh man i'm in a great mood we are in

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2021

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everybody wants their own crystal skull

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i'm just gonna let you know carolyn ford

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you want one of these go see carolyn

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ford got this from carolyn ford you

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want one of these go see carolyn ford i

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just had a wonderful email exchange with

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a few minutes ago actually you want one

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of these

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right carolyn ford how about

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a baby einstein this is a baby einstein

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it's got his own little pillow that he

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sits on

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so he sits like this baby einstein

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got the little holes right here where

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einstein's got him baby eins

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you want one of these einstein the

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crystal skull.com

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that's where you go einstein the crystal

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skull.com promo code

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jimmy will get you 10 off of your

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crystal

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skull order today all right

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go einstein the crystalskull.com we've

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got links over at jimmychurchradio.com

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follow me on twitter at

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j church radio sounds like an owl

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oh man yeah it's uh

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that's too funny i can't move it now

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all right that's enough that's enough

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox on twitter

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come and visit us over there we've got

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chat rooms open one over at spreaker one

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over kgra

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and of course hello to everybody on

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youtube troublemakers hello to everybody

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on facebook troublemakers

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hello to everybody in the bunker cam

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troublemakers

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everybody's a troublemaker these days

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oh that looks good hold on i'm going to

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that is that what okay

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i just want to make sure that is what i

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am looking at that's from p.s fader

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who is p.s vader who's ps

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fader ps ps fader that's the first time

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i've seen you tweet who is p.s vader

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somebody throw ps under the bus i want

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to know who that is all right

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questions during the show tonight

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hashtag f2bq

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we've got bob mcguire on one of the big

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brains of our community

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any questions for bob tonight pop them

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up right there

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f2bq you can also email throughout the

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and i will get to as many as i can and

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that email is jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com all right let's get

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to the breaking news

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i'm not sure if there is any news today

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is there anything going on

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not sure slow news day didn't really see

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all right what's going on out there

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somebody let me know

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audio is really bad jimmy and that is

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i had some issues that i let

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everybody know about yesterday

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this one is choppy you said that's that

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this one check check check no there's no

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i'm gonna run for that now let's get to

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the breaking news julian assange

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is free to return home to australia

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once legal challenges against him are

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dealt with prime minister scott

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morrison announced today after a uk

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court denied a request to extradite the

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wikileaks founder to the united states

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a british judge yesterday blocked the

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extradition request by the united states

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where assange was set to face criminal

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including breaking a spying law saying

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that his mental health problems meant he

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at risk of suicide the united states

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said it would continue to seek assange's

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extradition with prosecutors set to

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appeal the ruling

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next up preserving the historic sites

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where humans first landed on the moon

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is now not only a good idea

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it is also the law

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you see the united states has enacted

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its first legislation that requires

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working with nasa

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on new missions to the moon to avoid

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distributing the u.s hardware

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disturbing distributing disturbing the

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us hardware that was left there 50 years

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the one small step to protect human

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act became law on new year's eve

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thursday december 31st now

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u.s commercial enterprises and other

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seeking contracts

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seeking grants or other agreements for

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will need to agree to stay clear of the

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human heritage sites on the moon to be

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eligible

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for the requested support

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there you go so if we went to the moon

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uh one of the uh i think it's called

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talk radio

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a youtube channel out of the united

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kingdom

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was removed from youtube

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250 000 subscribers

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and uh without

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youtube actually saying why

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and one of the things that they were

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talking about on this youtube channel

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apparently was

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the lockdowns that are going down in the

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uk and with just

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voices of this you know people upset uh

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people that weren't

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you know um i heard that it was

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a boring channel this is a dry

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british typical radio broadcast

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nothing special and they never really

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stepped out of bounds

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but the youtube channel was brought down

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and i guess

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one of the other things i think this is

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what i read don't quote me don't sue me

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but they also talked about the fake moon

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landings

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so you know and and i'm talking about

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this new law

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i'm afraid i can't even crack a joke now

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can't even crack a joke about it

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i gotta let that stuff go let's get to

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show cracking happy birthday to today

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46 years old i like bradley he's

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actually pretty funny marilyn manson

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today

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says that he's only 52. diane

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keaton today 75

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clancy brown today is 63 years old of

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course

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starship troopers chopping off arms

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whack

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shawshank redemption billions carnival

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on hbo and of course bad boys from 1983

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with sean penn i'm going to talk more

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about this in just a minute

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and vinnie jones today is 56 years old

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lockstock and two smoking

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barrels played one of my favorite

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characters in cinema history

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bullet tooth tony

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and snatch rita and i were talking about

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vinnie the other day i said what was his

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what was it bullet tooth tony

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stopped a bullet with his teeth so they

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called him bullet tooth tony our dead

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guy's birthday today is

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sam phillips 1923-2003 died at the age

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of 80.

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sam was the founder of sun records and

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sun studio

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in memphis tennessee where he produced

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recordings by

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roy orbison jerry lee lewis carl perkins

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johnny cash

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and howland wolf phillips played a major

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role in the development of rock and roll

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during the 1950s owned some radio

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stations too in memphis

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had the first all-female radio station

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opened that up in like 1956 1957 whole

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staff

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dj's front office advertising

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the staff at the radio station all women

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good for sam all right but it was on the

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18th of july

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1953 when an 18 year old named elvis

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presley

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dropped into the studio to record

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something for his mother's birthday

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and the rest they say

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is history in 1986 phillips was part of

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the first group inducted into the rock

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and roll hall of fame

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he died at saint francis hospital in

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memphis on july 30

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2003 only one day

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before the original sun studio was

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designated

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a national historic landmark

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happy birthday sam phillips on the stay

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in history 1972

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president nixon launches the space

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shuttle

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that's right well the program the space

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shuttle program he launched in 1972

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then two years later nixon would resign

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21 years later the shuttle

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resigned on this day in history fader

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fact

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all right here you go listen to this

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leonardo da vinci's painting

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salvatore mundy was sold

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at auction in 1958

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for just fifty dollars in 2005

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it sold for ten thousand dollars

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then eight years later in 2013

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it sold for 75 million dollars

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and then later that year it sold again

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for 127.5

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million dollars and then three and a

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half years later

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sold at auction in 2017

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for 450.3

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million dollars and that

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is your favorite fact tonight bob

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mcguire is here he's gonna tell us

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what's going on

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with this triangle ufo image that's

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circulating around all those secret

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three letter agencies part of some

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secret reports

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we're gonna find out all about that

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picture tonight with bob and a lot of

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other subjects a lot of stuff

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is going down including bob's front yard

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tomorrow night

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isaac arthur and future science we're

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going to be talking about measurement

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observation entanglement and

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faster than the speed of light that's

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right thursday's another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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and right now i'm going to hit this

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go over to jimmychurchradio.com we got

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the new banners up you can go and click

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it'll take you straight there

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it's been a while it's been a while

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since

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you and i us

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we it's been a while since

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we have talked about the mandela effect

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but today it came back in full force

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say what jimmy you got a mandela effect

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stay with me got a good one coming up i

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won't disappoint you

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but one of my all-time favorite movies

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is 1983's bad boys with

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sean penn eastside morales

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and ali sheedy and all of them were

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great in the film

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but it was clancy brown

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as viking lofgren who was the scene

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stealer

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clancy made such an impact on me

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that i ended up just following his

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career throughout the years

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clancy brown was great

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and then 18 years ago

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18 years ago remember like it was

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yesterday 18 years ago

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rita and i watched bad boys she hadn't

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seen the movie before she knows sean

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penn and you know things but

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so we watch bad boys and then uh

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you know i tell her all about clancy

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clancy come to remember the jail so you

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remember the fight with the uh

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uh uh what uh cokes the cokes in the uh

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uh pillowcase right and

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uh yeah you know and

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and right after that so that was like

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2002

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and clancy brown right

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and right after that hbo

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premiered their new series

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and there was clancy playing

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brother john's brother johnson

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crowe brother justin crow i don't

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remember

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but it was a good role and and carnival

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was great rita and i

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all the supernatural and paranormal you

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can handle a little bit of time travel

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thrown in there

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took place back in the dust bowl in the

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middle of the united states back in like

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the 1930s

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great series and it ran for 24 episodes

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two seasons

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and we watched both seasons and we

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really enjoyed it

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but there was no season three the show

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was canceled in 2005

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and it was sometime right after this

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right around 2005

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2006 i

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i had read something this announcement

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that

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said carnival was cancelled

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because clancy brown had died

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and i freaked out and you know and and i

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showed the article to read out margarita

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check this out

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clancy brown is dead what

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yeah carnival's cancelled

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and although we were bummed out

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we accepted the fact that clancy had

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died and we go we double check and sure

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enough

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carnival's canceled there's no season

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three clancy brown is dead

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and then over the next year or so

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a couple of things popped up you know

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movies whatever like a tv series

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he was in lost you know clancy wasn't

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lost in a movie or two i don't remember

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the specifics it doesn't matter but rita

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and i

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concluded that they must have filmed

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all of this stuff with clancy before he

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died

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and now we're just getting the stuff

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that was released

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after his death right okay that makes

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sense

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so from 2006 through 2012

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clancy kind of dropped out of sight i

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mean dude is dead right he's dead i

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don't i'm just not on tv anywhere

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i don't see clancy i didn't even think

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about clancy but then in 2012

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he popped up in this movie called john

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dies at the end which is a great movie

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and and i'm watching it i'm like wait a

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minute

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that's clancy plans he's dead

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right what's he doing in this movie and

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then i thought to myself ah

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it must be another actor that was you

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00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:41,440
know that

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00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:43,840
kind of looked like clancy but it could

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be clancy because clancy's been dead for

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you know like momo for 10 years

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and i'm not making this stuff up this is

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how it went down and i

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i remember trying to find another actor

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that i think looked like clancy and i

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00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,400
was making a mistake and and so forth

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00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:02,159
but anyway

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00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:05,760
but then in 2018 clancy shows up

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00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:10,159
in the flesh on showtime's billions

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00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,320
playing attorney general waylon jeffcoat

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great role too three years ago i'm

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sitting there with rita

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watching our new favorite series

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00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,720
billions which we still love

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00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:25,840
and there's clancy and i turn to rita

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and go

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wait a minute dude is dead

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right rita says didn't he die back when

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carnival was on the air

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and i was like yeah he's dead so i

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grabbed my cell phone i look up carnival

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on imdb there's clancy right he's the

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actor check got that done

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00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:49,840
i look up billions and there's clancy

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00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,279
check that out so clancy's alive

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i couldn't believe it and then rita and

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i sat there talking about the whole

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00:27:03,029 --> 00:26:58,400
thing dude died we had read it

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00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,039
carnival got canceled and and back then

570
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it was like a whole thing for us you

571
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know this clancy dying

572
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you know and we really like the show

573
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,679
when we like clancy's role he was great

574
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and we were bummed out that he died

575
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this was our

576
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very real memory

577
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,960
now here's the strange thing clancy

578
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:24,399
really did drop off

579
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the big screen from 2006 until just

580
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recently

581
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:32,799
over 10 years because he was doing

582
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:37,760
voice acting he's been very very busy

583
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:41,120
he was the dude he was the voice acting

584
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,399
king still is

585
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:45,200
here in la all of his new stuff that's

586
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:46,559
coming out from 20

587
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,240
20 20 and 2021 all voice overs got like

588
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,720
five or ten big hollywood productions

589
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:54,000
coming out but

590
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he did animated tv he did film voice

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overs

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voices for characters and video games

593
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really big stuff too like he did the

594
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lego dc super villains

595
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he did dallas and robo he did avengers

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ensemble

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he did troll hunters he did star wars

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all of them he did

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thor ragnarok that's right he did tina

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teenage mutant

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ninja turtles he did the ultimate

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spider-man he did sleepy hollow he did

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hulk and the agents of smash

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he did all of spongebob squarepants

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he was mr krabs he did pound puppies he

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did kung fu panda

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he did transformers prime he did scooby

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doo

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he did call of duty he did green lantern

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thunder cats g.i joe renegades and i'm a

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99

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he was even hades in god of war

613
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:51,520
one of rita and i's all-time favorite

614
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:54,240
video games and we didn't know

615
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that clancy brown was hades

616
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didn't know that so yeah although clancy

617
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was the busiest voice in hollywood you

618
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,080
didn't see his face

619
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at least we didn't until billions

620
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:10,720
premiered in 2017.

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his voice over stuff certainly explains

622
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his disappearance for 10 years

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but there was no explanation for the

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article that we

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read back in 2005 that announced his

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death and the cancellation of hbo's

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carnival

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seriously every time i see clancy's face

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today

630
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he was the guy that died and came back

631
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to life i'm not making this up

632
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just like earlier when i found out that

633
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today was his birthday

634
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dude is truly the phoenix

635
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for real so that's my mandela effect

636
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story of the day i'm your host jimmy

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church

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this is fade to black tonight bob

639
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mcguire

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talking about that triangle ufo image

641
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that

642
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has got everybody talking on the

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internet

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tomorrow night it is isaac arthur and

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future science it's a physics evening

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tomorrow on fade to black

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thursday is another fader night with

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open lines all night long i'm your host

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jimmy church follow me on twitter

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mcguire on twitter at bob and

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letters

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i might be wrong maybe it's his birthday

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church we'll be right back with our

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight bob mcguire

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is here tomorrow night isaac arthur

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future science we'll be talking about

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physics

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all night long tonight our guest is

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scientist

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ufo uap researcher professor bob mcguire

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we're going to be discussing the rumors

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about a classified top

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secret image of a black triangle ufo

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uap exiting the ocean surface that is

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part of a government agency report

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bob holds a phd in applied mathematics

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from brown university

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he's an early pioneer of software

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defined radio sdr

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at the institute for defense analysis

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center for communication research that

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sounds creepy bob

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bob found federated founded federated

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in 2017.

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bob recently moved back to his home

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state of alabama after retiring from

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virginia tech as a professor

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director of research and chief scientist

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of the hume center

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he's also of course a member of sky hub

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and skyhub science advisory group

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that website and its link is over at

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jimmychurchradio.comskyhub.org i'd like

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to welcome back to fade to black the one

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and only

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bob how you doing man oh i'm doing okay

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jimmy uh got a got a death of a friend

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from

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covid19 of 37 years but you know

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a lot of people are putting up with that

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outside of that

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uh i'm doing well my wife and i are

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healthy

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when we're isolated trying not to get

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exposed and waiting for a vaccine

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you look great thank you well you know

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they say theatrics is half the sale

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right well i forgot my pancake makeup

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what was it uh saturday night live uh

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uh billy crystal uh what what was it

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00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:15,119
ricardo montabon he did one of those

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guys

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it's better to look good than to feel

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good

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oh yes i never i mean you know i'm like

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old and that stuck with me my entire

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life

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it it really did it's a really profound

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statement if you think about it

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um the uh uh i gotta

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touch on a couple of things out of the

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gate uh really quick um

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obviously we know we don't do politics

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on the show but

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00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:44,079
uh ignoring the elephant in the room

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00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:45,920
we've got a major election going down in

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georgia you're right there on the border

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uh do you feel the pressure over there

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in alabama

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00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:55,280
about what's going on oh yeah yeah yeah

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because because

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uh half of my most of my television

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stations

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are in columbus georgia

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or just across the border here in

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alabama and

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the politics of georgia and the politics

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of alabama

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are different but not that different and

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so

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it's just very very active and of course

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half a billion dollars got spent on

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advertising

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uh in georgia on this election so it's

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just dominated the airways people are

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sick of it

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right right i can only imagine and i

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just want to get all this behind

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i just want i i just want to know what's

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going on

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right that's all i just want i just want

849
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,079
to know everybody is just we've got the

850
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,920
question marks and question marks and

851
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:44,800
question marks

852
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:48,560
we've just got to move on 2020 is behind

853
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:49,040
us

854
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:53,119
uh

855
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,480
to get back to work and roll up the

856
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,400
sleeves and and uh

857
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:58,160
and get this country put back together

858
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:59,680
that's it that's it that's it

859
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,560
you know and and here we are january 5th

860
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,320
and tomorrow is the sixth

861
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,400
and i don't have to talk about any of it

862
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:08,880
i get to talk about ufos with you

863
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,599
i get to talk physics with isaac arthur

864
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,200
and i get to escape

865
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:15,760
right the reality of what's going on out

866
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:16,560
there for three and

867
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:19,040
three hours every single night so i

868
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:20,240
think my lucky stars

869
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,839
this is my job that's a good thing jimmy

870
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:23,520
it's a good thing if you were getting

871
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:25,520
depressed

872
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:28,720
well then you got the ufo community

873
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:32,079
well that's depressing oh man

874
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,440
i was talking to some friends over the

875
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,520
weekend and it was

876
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,920
really interesting um a couple of

877
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:39,520
friends over at the house

878
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,920
and uh you know we just got over covered

879
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,680
ourselves you know our family and

880
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:47,440
everything and and

881
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,240
i'm still not a hundred percent but i'm

882
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,160
over the covered part i'm dealing with

883
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:53,760
all of the after effects

884
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:56,000
and uh so but anyway we had a couple of

885
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:56,800
friends over

886
00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:00,240
and and they both brought up something

887
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:01,359
with me

888
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,960
that was interesting what we're just

889
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:05,680
talking about they said our ufo

890
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:06,720
community

891
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,079
is a microcosm of the world

892
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,280
whatever goes on here

893
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,920
eventually goes on out in the world

894
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,720
right that we

895
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:19,040
are an example of what the rest of the

896
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:20,640
world is going through

897
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,240
and the point to that is we

898
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:27,040
the ufo community can can deal with

899
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:28,319
trippiness

900
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:31,599
uncertainty conspiracy

901
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,440
right we can understand all of the drama

902
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:36,960
that the rest of the world is freaking

903
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,119
out on right now here it's just like

904
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:41,359
another day at the races isn't it

905
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,760
so so as you you know that i'm richard

906
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:45,200
bleep and dolan's

907
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:47,760
uh admin and moderator on the richard

908
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:49,440
bleep and dolan forum

909
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,119
so inside there is every range of

910
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:54,640
politics you can imagine

911
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:57,440
every philosophy and every conspiracy

912
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,079
theory

913
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,960
in a few or three thousand people and

914
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:01,599
it's just

915
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,480
amazing to watch it and they know each

916
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,240
other well enough

917
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,560
that they uh exchange the heat the

918
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,800
exchanges get really heated

919
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:13,040
and some of it's just like bouncing off

920
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:13,920
the walls

921
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,040
and so it's actually been a little fun

922
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,200
people get upset i don't really get

923
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,599
upset

924
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,839
i mean it's just they're they're they're

925
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:26,000
letting i figure they're letting steam

926
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,480
off

927
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,319
and that's a safe place to do it you

928
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:30,160
know it's funny for me to

929
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:33,680
hear you say bleeping um

930
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:37,280
because of the origins

931
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,880
the etymology of of bleepin

932
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,880
and i'll tell you this you may have

933
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:44,000
heard the story

934
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:47,359
but uh let me be very clear how this

935
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:54,550
six years ago probably maybe longer but

936
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:58,640
somewhere in there richard and i were

937
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,440
were with a group of friends and i think

938
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:03,440
we had a couple of beers

939
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:07,920
and richard started

940
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:11,040
swearing like a sailor

941
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,640
but there was it was during the

942
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,960
conversation we were doing night vision

943
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,040
and we had some stuff going on and he

944
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,960
got excited and i was like wow richard

945
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:20,000
you got a potty mouth

946
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:23,200
right and i said that's pretty cool

947
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:26,400
and so that after that

948
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:29,119
i went up to him just a couple of months

949
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,319
later

950
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:32,400
and he was staying next to us in this

951
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:33,520
hotel

952
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,720
and i went out each morning i would go

953
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,800
out and richard and i would talk at like

954
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,920
eight o'clock in the morning but the

955
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:41,680
first morning i went out there

956
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,079
uh he's sitting there and i go richard

957
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:48,079
uh there's a bad word there and i said

958
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,119
richard

959
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,920
effin dolan and he said jimmy f in

960
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:52,720
church

961
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:55,200
and i said that's the richard i love

962
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:55,839
right

963
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:58,560
and so that's where it started so after

964
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,040
that

965
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:02,000
privately when i would see richard you

966
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,319
know

967
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,359
around we would greet each other

968
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,640
with that and and that's how it started

969
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,800
it was our little inside little joke

970
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:11,680
that we would say

971
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,359
privately to each other and then

972
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:17,760
one day i don't know it's probably four

973
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:20,319
years ago five years ago before the show

974
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,760
uh i was talking to richard and i said

975
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:23,920
hey man i'm gonna introduce you as

976
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,640
richard f

977
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,800
and dolan tonight because i dare you i

978
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:29,280
dare you i said okay i'm gonna do it

979
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,480
he goes i i love it do it do it and

980
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:35,200
of course i didn't i said richard bleep

981
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,480
and dolan

982
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,359
and that's that's that's where it

983
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,119
started and so for me

984
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,839
so many years later for you to say that

985
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,119
and that it's now like

986
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,839
established right established yeah i got

987
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:49,520
it for you i got i got it from you so

988
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:50,240
there you go

989
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,800
so i i would be remiss if we don't pass

990
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:57,200
uh you and our audience don't pass to

991
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,640
richard our

992
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:01,119
deepest condolences on the loss of his

993
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,079
mother to covet

994
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:03,760
i don't want to be debbie downer but we

995
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:06,480
gotta tell richard we gotta tell richard

996
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:10,160
condolences yeah and uh the morning that

997
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:11,119
she passed i

998
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:14,400
i spoke to richard uh uh

999
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,160
um it was a private conversation but

1000
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,880
he came straight out and said at the

1001
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,079
beginning of the conversation

1002
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:25,440
this is what just happened and

1003
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,400
i was in another mindset and when you

1004
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:30,160
hear that coming from such a close

1005
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:30,960
friend you know

1006
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:34,560
it's his mom um i

1007
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,839
i wow you know and

1008
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:39,680
and what a what a tremendous thing to

1009
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:42,640
deal with i dealt with it with my mom

1010
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:46,160
and uh and for him uh to deal with it

1011
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,680
minutes after she had passed uh

1012
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:52,640
he was can i i'll say this and richard

1013
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:53,520
if you're listening

1014
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:56,720
uh all the respect in the world he was

1015
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,200
in a

1016
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,319
would have been

1017
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,880
right he was he just knew you know he's

1018
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:04,319
a very pragmatic guy

1019
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,079
you know he's got things that he has to

1020
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,920
uh deal with and work on

1021
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:10,240
uh with him and his family but i said

1022
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:11,920
man you're taking it better than

1023
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,440
than i am right now you know but uh

1024
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:18,000
uh his head is in the right place and

1025
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,599
you know our thoughts and prayers go

1026
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,040
to him and tracy and the rest of the

1027
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:23,440
family out there the good thing is he's

1028
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:24,319
working hard

1029
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:25,839
so you know he came out with this new

1030
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,680
book uh the alien agenda but he is also

1031
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,000
doing what everybody has been hoping he

1032
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,760
would do for the longest time

1033
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:36,400
he's bringing out volume three of ufo on

1034
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:37,839
the national security state

1035
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:40,000
and it's almost done well we've been

1036
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:41,359
waiting

1037
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,720
he is really pouring pouring his heart

1038
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:49,280
and soul into it yeah and and i'm glad

1039
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,640
that uh uh richard

1040
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:55,520
richard needs to write yeah that's what

1041
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:56,480
he needs to do

1042
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:00,400
this community needs his

1043
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:03,440
his books they need his his

1044
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,880
insight they you know that's that's what

1045
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,280
got him to where he is and the respect

1046
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,280
you know and people just need

1047
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,520
and so to do that you've got to have the

1048
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,480
discipline man

1049
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:17,200
you've got to sit you've got to write

1050
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:18,400
you know and i would just

1051
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,520
bother him all the time richard what are

1052
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:21,200
you doing well well you should be

1053
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,160
writing

1054
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:24,400
yeah i know but i got i you know jimmy i

1055
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:25,280
i got

1056
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:28,960
okay richard write the book

1057
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,000
right just sit down right don't don't

1058
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,760
don't don't don't look

1059
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,839
because i serve him on the forum doesn't

1060
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,200
mean i didn't give him hell

1061
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:39,280
yeah i really did i gave him hell about

1062
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,560
writing that book it says

1063
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:43,520
it is what you do best better than

1064
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,480
anyone

1065
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,599
and just do it and then oh he had this

1066
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:49,359
he had this alien agenda

1067
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:52,960
weekend where he had a weekend private

1068
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,599
virtual meeting and boom out of that and

1069
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:57,359
then he just opened the floodgate

1070
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,960
he just started writing all over the

1071
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:00,880
place and for internally he's written a

1072
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,000
bunch of great stuff

1073
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,160
and now he's writing the big book it's

1074
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:05,839
just great yeah see and and

1075
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:08,800
and somebody like richard um and i asked

1076
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:09,280
him

1077
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,720
uh a couple of times about how he writes

1078
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,440
but with richard it's all in his head

1079
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,079
all you've got to do

1080
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,640
is take the time of putting your hands

1081
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:21,920
on the keyboard

1082
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,800
get it out of you i can only imagine how

1083
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,599
he can

1084
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:28,319
crank out pages right it's it's it's an

1085
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:29,920
amazing so once he started

1086
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:32,720
he realized he had way more than enough

1087
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:33,920
material for a book

1088
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,079
and he just jumped in yeah he said to me

1089
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,480
a couple of weeks ago on the show

1090
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,880
uh best and fastest and easiest book

1091
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,839
i've ever written

1092
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,760
it just keeps flowing just just came out

1093
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:45,599
of me well don't stop

1094
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:46,880
don't stop richard i know you're

1095
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,280
listening we love you our best goes to

1096
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:51,280
uh you and tracy in the family

1097
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:55,040
uh through these times um let's uh let's

1098
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:55,359
go

1099
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:58,720
let's get straight to it uh this

1100
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,160
image that uh has got everybody

1101
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:05,599
uh chatting right now uh this second

1102
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,240
image i should say uh i think it was a

1103
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:09,920
couple of months ago

1104
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,680
i saw this little cryptic tweet of yours

1105
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,760
and i immediately got on the phone and

1106
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,160
started making phone calls about it

1107
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,400
and i don't have the tweet up in front

1108
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:22,319
of me but it said something like i

1109
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:25,760
i believe you said i've seen

1110
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,559
the picture right okay so you know the

1111
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,000
tweet i'm talking about

1112
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:33,280
i do okay so i at that point

1113
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:36,480
i i get a hold of uh the debrief

1114
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,839
and and i talked to uh micah as you know

1115
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,839
um and started jumping into this a

1116
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,119
little bit then i see

1117
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:45,920
the artist rendering then i see the

1118
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:46,800
other picture

1119
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,160
of the f-18 pilot which didn't look like

1120
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:53,359
what was being described by you and

1121
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,480
others

1122
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:56,480
uh with this black triangle with lights

1123
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:57,520
on it and

1124
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,880
you know a 90 degree egress

1125
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,599
out of the ocean i didn't see that so

1126
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:04,800
then i was thinking

1127
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:08,800
okay well this is interesting the f-18

1128
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:12,160
image but is this what everybody else is

1129
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,359
chatting about

1130
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,400
that there were two images

1131
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,880
so let's actually start back at the

1132
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,720
beginning here

1133
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:23,200
we're talking about two images that were

1134
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:23,760
part

1135
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,720
of a report that was being circulated

1136
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,680
right

1137
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,480
that is correct so so just let me tell

1138
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,000
you

1139
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:35,680
i am told and i believe it that

1140
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,640
after my tweets and some other things

1141
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,319
that there was a full-blown

1142
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:42,960
counterintelligence investigation

1143
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,000
and they apparently calmed down

1144
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,200
very quickly when they found out what i

1145
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,920
already knew and that is those damn

1146
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,280
pictures

1147
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,559
and that report are everywhere they're

1148
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:58,079
all over the government people just

1149
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:59,680
passing them around and showing them off

1150
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:00,559
to their friends

1151
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:03,839
because they're so startling so the

1152
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,720
the least significant of them i had been

1153
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:07,839
shown that thing

1154
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:10,720
by five different people in and out of

1155
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,520
government

1156
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:14,000
and they were just all over the place

1157
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:14,880
and the issue

1158
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:19,599
is i don't believe any of the photos

1159
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:23,119
are actually classified the people are

1160
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:24,640
receiving

1161
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:28,400
lawful orders not to release those

1162
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:29,359
photos

1163
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,720
until given permission and the re

1164
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:34,559
they're they're getting that over

1165
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,040
because they were taken with private

1166
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,200
cell phone videos

1167
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,160
cell phone cameras that the crew took

1168
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,480
into the airplane with them

1169
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:47,280
now that used to be against the rules

1170
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,880
and i don't know whether it is now or

1171
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,240
not i just know

1172
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:52,800
that both of these photos that i have

1173
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:53,839
seen

1174
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:56,960
were taken with cell phones and

1175
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,680
one is what everybody's calling the

1176
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,280
batman balloon

1177
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:03,760
and the other one is this triangle thing

1178
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:04,480
and

1179
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:11,839
position papers where big new

1180
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:14,880
news is spread out uh i'm sorry it's

1181
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,520
developed

1182
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:18,319
inside the government is these reports

1183
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:19,839
and their inputs

1184
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:22,319
come from all sorts of departments and

1185
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,119
entities

1186
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,800
all over the government and it gets

1187
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,319
passed around everywhere

1188
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:28,640
and of course people make copies or have

1189
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:29,680
copies

1190
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,040
so uh it's just it's just i don't think

1191
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:34,800
i saw the final version

1192
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,680
because it was it was a while ago and i

1193
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:38,960
haven't been

1194
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,839
i haven't seen a classified thing since

1195
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:43,040
may the 8th

1196
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,480
when i did what's called retired retired

1197
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:49,119
i retired from my job and started

1198
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:49,680
drawing

1199
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:53,200
both my pension and uh taking money from

1200
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,000
stocks and

1201
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:56,079
that i own in companies payouts from

1202
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:57,520
that and

1203
00:52:01,589 --> 00:52:00,319
i read out of all my clearances i no

1204
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:01,599
longer hold a clearance

1205
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:10,710
there is some verbiage i don't know how

1206
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:13,280
accurate it is um you know from the

1207
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:14,079
debrief and

1208
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:17,359
and tim mcmillan um about

1209
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:20,880
the pages of this report and and what is

1210
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,920
in this report is this the same report

1211
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,720
that you saw i think i saw a much

1212
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:29,920
earlier version

1213
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:32,960
and i believe that tim has probably been

1214
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,240
exposed to one way or another tim

1215
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:38,000
and the debrief have been exposed to a

1216
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:39,440
later version than i was

1217
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:42,960
so uh as i said i retired in may and i

1218
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:47,440
saw it saw the thing being passed around

1219
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,280
last late last fall and the

1220
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:54,480
the picture that came out which was

1221
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:56,720
everybody's calling the batman balloon

1222
00:53:01,430 --> 00:53:00,000
i saw that in the spring from five

1223
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:01,440
different sources

1224
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,880
and the triangle picture that has not

1225
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:05,839
made it out

1226
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,880
i saw it late last fall or early

1227
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:11,119
this year uh things kind of run together

1228
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,160
because of all the

1229
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:15,200
shutdowns in the school year and covid i

1230
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:15,920
was like

1231
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,800
the only person inside the hume center

1232
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:19,920
for a month

1233
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,800
because everybody else was gone so i've

1234
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:24,720
a lot of days run together but it was

1235
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:26,079
around then

1236
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:29,119
now uh the

1237
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:32,319
image that nobody has seen

1238
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,920
the triangle let's just call it the

1239
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:36,640
triangle uh for the rest of the show

1240
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,480
that image did you see it electronically

1241
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,640
yes okay i did not see it printed i saw

1242
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:44,079
an electronic version

1243
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:46,240
uh are you still in possession of that

1244
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:47,280
photo

1245
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:49,200
i am not i no longer have it because

1246
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:50,640
because it was on

1247
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:54,160
someone else's electronics so you were

1248
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,880
that's how you saw it somebody whatever

1249
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:58,720
cell phone ipad

1250
00:54:02,069 --> 00:54:00,960
whatever it was i saw it and it was not

1251
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:02,079
in my possession

1252
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:06,160
right okay um describe

1253
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:10,240
what you saw in the picture so the

1254
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,520
i saw the underbelly of

1255
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,800
a triangle with three or three lights in

1256
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:17,839
the corner

1257
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:20,640
some structure in the center and i don't

1258
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:21,359
remember

1259
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,040
any other things that are being talked

1260
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,800
about but i didn't get to see it for

1261
00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:26,079
long but i did see

1262
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,710
okay so but so help me understand here

1263
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:41,040
you can see my hands uh so can some of

1264
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:41,839
the audience

1265
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:45,599
okay so here's the picture right

1266
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:49,440
how big was the triangle in this picture

1267
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,960
um ratio okay so eight let's say let's

1268
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:54,880
say it was an eight by ten picture

1269
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:58,160
it was um a cup about a square inch

1270
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,960
oh something substantial oh yeah you can

1271
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:01,920
see some details

1272
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,040
yeah right on okay now um

1273
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,200
again a pain this is theatrics of the

1274
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:09,200
mind

1275
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:12,319
the reports are that there was

1276
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,839
water you see the surface of the ocean

1277
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:18,079
how close was the triangle to the

1278
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:19,599
surface of the ocean if you can make a

1279
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:20,400
guesstimate

1280
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,599
okay so i i that's a little difficult

1281
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,680
because it's difficult to look above

1282
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:27,599
down at the ocean and estimate how high

1283
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:28,960
above the ocean you are

1284
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:31,119
but but it was out the out the cockpit

1285
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,400
of the airplane

1286
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:34,799
so i don't know how high they were and

1287
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,799
the other reason that we have some hope

1288
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,160
it will come out

1289
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:40,559
is none of the instruments or the

1290
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:42,319
classified settings on any of the

1291
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:42,960
instruments

1292
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:46,799
were in the photo so in other words

1293
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:49,839
okay as opposed to the fa-18 shot the

1294
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:51,280
batman shot

1295
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:54,400
what you see below is clouds

1296
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:56,240
right you know you could see water you

1297
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:58,240
can see water in this instance

1298
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,520
right you can see the surface of the

1299
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:01,520
ocean so they're not that high up

1300
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:04,000
no they well i i i don't believe that

1301
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,880
they are

1302
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:06,960
they're below the cloud deck right and

1303
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:09,280
and not not i don't even recall

1304
00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,480
noticing clouds so they must have come

1305
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:14,079
down fairly though but but i don't think

1306
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:14,720
they were

1307
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:18,079
like raising mist off the water zipping

1308
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:19,359
over the ocean they were up

1309
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,440
they were probably up a thousand meters

1310
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:22,960
right a kilometer maybe

1311
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:25,920
okay i got you i got you that's perfect

1312
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,480
um

1313
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,559
and then next but that's a guess that's

1314
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:30,400
a guess no i get it i get it i get it

1315
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:30,880
well

1316
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:33,280
there's a difference between a mile and

1317
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:34,400
five thousand feet

1318
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:40,319
uh this thing is this is not halfway to

1319
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:41,520
space this is close to

1320
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:44,559
close exactly okay now there are

1321
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:48,960
the other chatter is that this object

1322
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,480
was leaving the water

1323
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:55,119
at a 90 degree angle was there anything

1324
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,400
for you to indicate that

1325
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:00,960
so it's flying sideways well fighting

1326
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,720
sideways looking to me it looked like

1327
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,599
sideways

1328
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,680
flop but and it may have been coming up

1329
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:07,040
may have been going down

1330
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,760
but the the shutter speed if you will

1331
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:11,520
equivalent on that camera was fast

1332
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,000
enough

1333
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:14,799
i didn't see any blur so that was my

1334
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:15,200
next

1335
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:18,720
question how clear and in focus

1336
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,960
is this photograph it's pretty clear and

1337
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:21,760
in focus i

1338
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:24,720
i don't recall any blur wow i mean this

1339
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,000
is oh this is over a year

1340
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:28,079
old but i don't memory but i don't

1341
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,079
recall any blur

1342
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:32,799
color oh yeah i was in color it was a

1343
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:35,520
cell phone cap no no i no i'm saying but

1344
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:38,960
it could be a shades of gray overcast

1345
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:42,079
day kind of thing oh no not that and

1346
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:42,799
that and

1347
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:45,599
this is whatever my mother my perception

1348
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:46,960
of the color of the

1349
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,359
the sub the base material is is obscured

1350
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,480
by the fact that it had these

1351
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,960
orangish yellowish lights in the three

1352
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,160
corners in other words

1353
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,880
those were that's what drew my eye and

1354
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:02,559
you could see the overall triangular

1355
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,440
outline

1356
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,760
i don't recall is seeing any other major

1357
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:07,440
structures

1358
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:10,960
the uh any any ships anything in the

1359
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,760
water

1360
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,599
i didn't see anything you didn't see any

1361
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:15,280
um we're gonna be taking a break here in

1362
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,480
a second we'll continue this

1363
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:18,400
conversation when we come back

1364
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:26,870
the the the comments about it being at a

1365
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:28,079
90 degree

1366
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:31,280
angle coming out of the ocean is very

1367
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,240
interesting

1368
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,319
but are you saying that that part from

1369
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:36,480
what you observed

1370
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,440
is not part of this picture that's not

1371
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,520
part of the picture it may in fact be

1372
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,079
what happened but i couldn't tell that

1373
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,920
from this picture okay well we all know

1374
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:47,680
where the uso is

1375
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:50,799
yeah from you looking at this image

1376
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:53,920
do you do you lean on uso

1377
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:57,359
or is that for you dismissed oh no i'm

1378
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:00,000
not dismissing it because i believe

1379
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:03,680
the discussions that i heard about this

1380
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,400
picture

1381
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:06,319
without having talked to any of the

1382
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:07,599
eyewitnesses

1383
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:32,069
these these personal pictures and

1384
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:35,280
brought them home and uh just i

1385
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:38,319
under i really get look i've

1386
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:41,760
i've been on um a submarine

1387
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:45,040
i've been on the flagship of the seventh

1388
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,000
fleet

1389
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:47,920
uh i've done quite a few things and i

1390
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:50,640
can tell you how a navy captain

1391
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:53,599
thinks about his boat or a ship the

1392
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:54,480
first thing

1393
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:57,680
is protection protection of your

1394
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:59,920
your personnel and then protection of

1395
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:00,960
your assets

1396
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,200
defending the united states of america

1397
01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:04,559
and

1398
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:08,559
they are upset that

1399
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:11,599
things happened like uh

1400
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:14,720
2 2 f two f eighteen pilots

1401
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:17,280
are flying at you know several hundred

1402
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,480
miles an hour

1403
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and a fifty foot wide uh

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right very interesting more on this when

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professor bob mcguire we're here talking

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in the ufo community about a classified

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jimmy church tonight bob mcguire

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01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:21,520
is here tomorrow night isaac arthur

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we're talking about we're going to do a

1553
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:30,480
lot of uh talking tonight with bob but

1554
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:32,000
right now we're talking about this

1555
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,200
this image that hasn't been

1556
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:37,920
leaked yet uh bob i just want to follow

1557
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:39,440
up on a couple of points that you made

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01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:40,960
before

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01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:43,760
uh the break which and the first one is

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01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:44,559
this

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01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:47,920
in the reports are you suggesting that

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01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:52,799
it was indeed two fa-18s

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01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:55,200
i don't know the answer to that okay my

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01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:56,079
so so

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01:07:02,789 --> 01:06:59,280
given what i saw in the picture

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01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:02,799
which was the canopy and

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01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:05,839
the number of people inside the airplane

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01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,640
i believe it was an fa-18 i saw nothing

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01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:10,240
to identify it

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01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:12,720
i want to make one more point sure and

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that is uh

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you and everybody else i know has seen

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01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:18,240
this movie fox did

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01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:19,839
called the phenomenon and you had him on

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01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,359
and talked to him about it

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01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:23,359
and near the end of that movie he

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interviews

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uh uh the former senate majority leader

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harry reid

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and harry made a really amazing

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01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:33,599
statement

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01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,720
and that is that by far and away

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01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:38,640
most of the evidence the u.s government

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01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:39,760
has collected

1585
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:43,119
has never seen the light of day and so

1586
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:46,960
there is some positive probability

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01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:49,920
that what i saw is not what in fact

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01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:51,359
everyone is talking about

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01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:54,319
i just believe given the things that i

1590
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:55,520
have heard

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01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:58,799
it is the same picture that i saw

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01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:01,920
so but it but it may not because i think

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i think there are just thousands of

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01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,000
pieces of evidence

1595
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:08,559
or that are laying around that could be

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01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,359
shown

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01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,760
uh there are aspects of them that we

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01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:13,520
don't want to let out because it reveals

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something

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of the united states capabilities but i

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just believe there's

1602
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:21,199
there's huge gobs of evidence that i

1603
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:22,719
haven't seen the lie today

1604
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,000
and i saw some and it was amazing to me

1605
01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:28,400
that as soon as tim's article came out

1606
01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:30,159
and he got to put out a video

1607
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:33,600
i had seen that photo last spring

1608
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:37,040
and then the stories kept coming about

1609
01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:40,480
this uso triangle that looked like one i

1610
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,880
had seen earlier than that

1611
01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:45,279
and i know a report was being passed

1612
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:46,239
around the government

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01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,640
for the government to develop an

1614
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:50,080
official statement

1615
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:52,960
and i believe that report influenced

1616
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:55,600
what susan goff at the pentagon and the

1617
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:56,799
office of naval

1618
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:00,799
intelligence said about the videos that

1619
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:03,359
we know ttsa got out for us and now we

1620
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:04,880
know from the phenomenon

1621
01:09:09,189 --> 01:09:07,359
that chris mellom was the person who got

1622
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,199
them from inside the pentagon

1623
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:10,960
delivered to him and walked away with

1624
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:12,640
them i mean we learned a lot from that

1625
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:13,199
movie

1626
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,960
yeah including how much evidence there

1627
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:17,279
is yeah yeah certainly certainly

1628
01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:20,960
um when do you think

1629
01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:24,080
what you were shown

1630
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:27,199
was authentic oh yeah i don't believe

1631
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:30,080
there's there is no there's no reason

1632
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:31,440
that i can think of

1633
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:35,440
and no motivation for me to have been

1634
01:09:38,950 --> 01:09:36,480
shown crap

1635
01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:38,960
because the it's not wasn't well known

1636
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:39,679
that i had

1637
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:42,000
any interest in that but that that stuff

1638
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,839
at all

1639
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,600
just no there was no injury there was no

1640
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:47,600
knowledge of it no reason for them to

1641
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:48,239
know

1642
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:51,359
now uh a couple of other quick questions

1643
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:54,480
um were you able to

1644
01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:58,480
think about size you know how big this

1645
01:10:02,709 --> 01:09:59,679
craft was

1646
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,719
yeah so the the triangle i had didn't

1647
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:04,719
have any perspective

1648
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,000
uh in order to say is it

1649
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,159
a thousand meters away or a hundred

1650
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,320
meters away it was pretty resolved

1651
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,120
so it's not going to be 10 kilometers

1652
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:17,520
away because it's pretty or it's huge

1653
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:20,239
so if it's 10 kilometers away this thing

1654
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,640
is

1655
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:22,960
massive if it's a hundreds of meters

1656
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:25,120
away it's not so large

1657
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:28,560
okay so some of the writing about the

1658
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:31,600
so-called batman balloon video they

1659
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:33,280
talked about how

1660
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:35,120
close they had flown to it there was

1661
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:37,600
some description of their interaction

1662
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:39,920
but i only saw one photo and they got

1663
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:40,880
close enough to

1664
01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:44,320
i think tell that it wasn't a balloon

1665
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,159
yeah i i i don't think that was a

1666
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:48,000
balloon i don't know what it is

1667
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:51,840
in the image but not at that altitude

1668
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:54,640
it's not an 18-inch balloon no it's not

1669
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,280
which means

1670
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:58,159
it would have been shot inside of the

1671
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,360
wingtip

1672
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,840
right i mean it would have been right

1673
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:03,520
there and that's not the way that that

1674
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:05,120
image looks to me

1675
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,239
it looks much further away but

1676
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:10,560
there's no way to triangulate just like

1677
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:12,320
with the image that you saw there's no

1678
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:13,440
way to

1679
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:16,560
uh triangulate but now there's other

1680
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,199
things that

1681
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:19,760
had to have gone through your mind us or

1682
01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:20,640
them

1683
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:23,520
right are we looking at did you think

1684
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,560
you were looking at something

1685
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:26,719
terrestrial or something else no

1686
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,239
no i didn't you you didn't think it was

1687
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:31,520
terrestrial

1688
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:35,280
no you think look look chris mellon

1689
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:38,480
and lou elizondo and others

1690
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:42,880
have said chris mellon has said

1691
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:45,679
said it in a phenomenon that he was in

1692
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:47,199
charge

1693
01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:50,719
uh during the 2004 nimitz incident and

1694
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,840
and following that of the special access

1695
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:55,840
programs for the pentagon

1696
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:58,000
if we were working on that chris mellon

1697
01:12:03,189 --> 01:11:59,679
would know

1698
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:03,199
he has act he had access to the special

1699
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:04,480
access programs

1700
01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:07,760
he sat on the panel that that

1701
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:09,679
managed that for the department of

1702
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,960
defense so

1703
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,719
unless it was not a department of

1704
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:14,480
defense program

1705
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:17,360
and hidden under some other cover inside

1706
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:18,239
the government

1707
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:20,800
he knew about it and so i just don't i

1708
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:22,320
don't believe it's ours

1709
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:24,640
given what he said and i don't think we

1710
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:26,000
have anything like that

1711
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:27,440
or we would use it against our

1712
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,440
adversaries so

1713
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,760
you don't think it was the tr-3b is what

1714
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:33,440
i'm getting at

1715
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:37,840
i just don't wow um

1716
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:40,800
any what are the odds you know if you

1717
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:41,360
were gonna

1718
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:43,840
if you were a betting man what are the

1719
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:44,800
odds that

1720
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,640
uh it is going to make its way into the

1721
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:50,000
public domain whether it's through

1722
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:52,880
the debris from tim mcmillan or or some

1723
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:54,960
other avenue

1724
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,600
i really hope the debrief gets it i just

1725
01:13:01,990 --> 01:12:58,640
think

1726
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,000
that their approach their

1727
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:05,280
clear writing their

1728
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:08,239
lack of any wild speculation is

1729
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,120
appealing

1730
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,960
to those that want this story and it's

1731
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:12,400
clear to me

1732
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,640
there is a group inside the government

1733
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,320
that wants these stories

1734
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:19,199
out or senator rubio wouldn't have added

1735
01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:19,920
language

1736
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:21,360
to the senate select committee on

1737
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,199
intelligence report that eventually made

1738
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,440
it into the covet 19 bill and is now

1739
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:28,080
law of the land and there wouldn't be

1740
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:29,440
other things going on

1741
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:31,199
reports being passed around the

1742
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:32,960
government for developing a public

1743
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,840
position

1744
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,000
internal document for what the realities

1745
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:37,520
are what's going on and what is the

1746
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,880
public position going to be

1747
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:40,640
that stuff wouldn't be passed around the

1748
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:43,520
government if it was an internal program

1749
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:45,840
or or or that what they did there wasn't

1750
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:47,199
a group

1751
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:49,840
or a high ranking group inside the

1752
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:50,400
government

1753
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:53,040
that wanted this story out that's just

1754
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:54,480
not how it works

1755
01:13:59,669 --> 01:13:57,600
it's govern the government coordinates

1756
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:59,679
the reason they do that is they don't

1757
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:01,520
want the navy telling a story that

1758
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,719
screws the air force

1759
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:04,159
they don't want the air force telling

1760
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:06,239
the story the screws

1761
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,520
etc etc etc it's passed all over

1762
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,360
government at a high enough level

1763
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:13,360
that decision making can happen and

1764
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,560
their input so

1765
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,239
they'll here's the way it'll work it'll

1766
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:19,600
be marked don't say this and because

1767
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:21,520
or don't say this and here is the

1768
01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:22,800
classification number

1769
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,320
that says you can't put this in the

1770
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:26,239
report that's how it works

1771
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,719
it's passed all over if the final

1772
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:30,640
version goes and somebody releases

1773
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,840
it i want to talk specifically about the

1774
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:35,280
report for a second

1775
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:38,880
uh is there anything

1776
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:43,040
directly from either pilot

1777
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:46,080
in the report i believe that there's

1778
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,600
testament but i don't remember the

1779
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,360
details of the testimony

1780
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:51,280
of their testimony testimony about what

1781
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:53,440
happened i believe there's a description

1782
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,400
of what they saw

1783
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:56,480
i don't recall the details of what they

1784
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,679
said right okay

1785
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,760
it's been a while well but that i

1786
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:01,199
totally agree with you

1787
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:05,600
um uh that their testimony

1788
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:09,199
is as important as anything in this

1789
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:12,560
we need to hear from them don't we i

1790
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:15,920
i look we we we got one brave

1791
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:19,040
navy pilot lieutenant ryan graves navy

1792
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:20,560
lieutenant ryan graves who's come out

1793
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:21,360
and talked

1794
01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:23,199
about what he saw for the thea and the

1795
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:25,280
theodore resident theodore roosevelt

1796
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:25,840
incident

1797
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,480
where he and uh we he and his wingman

1798
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:30,640
almost had a collision with an object

1799
01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:33,280
and decided it was bad enough they would

1800
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,800
write a report and their captain

1801
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:36,400
approved them writing this report

1802
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:39,199
okay if we had more people like that it

1803
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:42,239
would really be great i'm hoping uaptf

1804
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:45,679
lets that kind of testimony out well

1805
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:48,560
if if we go back to the three videos the

1806
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:50,719
tic tac toe and the gimbal

1807
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:54,640
uh the go fast um without

1808
01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:59,199
the independent testimony

1809
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,840
those videos are just videos yeah but

1810
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:03,199
the lovely part is you have you

1811
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:06,320
have you have the cockpit audio the the

1812
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:09,920
the ship to air audio you have lots of

1813
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:10,480
audio

1814
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:13,520
in that stuff and these

1815
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:15,520
pilots and air crews and people on the

1816
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,640
ships are now

1817
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,719
able and allowed and even i think

1818
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:21,440
encouraged to go out and tell the story

1819
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:23,199
yeah and so we need to hear from these

1820
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:24,640
two pilots

1821
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:33,270
the work of ttsa which

1822
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:36,719
seems to and we'll talk about it more um

1823
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:41,280
as has come to a pretty abrupt halt

1824
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:43,760
uh you know with the exodus of of lou

1825
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:44,400
and chris

1826
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:48,800
and and steve justice is it the debrief

1827
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,640
that is now going to be the back channel

1828
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:52,640
for the for the pentagon

1829
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,719
i don't know the answer to that i'm not

1830
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:56,080
part of the debrief

1831
01:17:00,950 --> 01:16:59,280
and they they you know i'm i i believe

1832
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:00,960
that i'm friendly with those guys on

1833
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:03,280
social media but i don't really have any

1834
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,960
internal interaction with them so i

1835
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:06,480
don't know their brief

1836
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,960
or who their contacts are or what their

1837
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:10,560
sources are i just don't know

1838
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:14,000
why why do you think uh uh the three of

1839
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:14,640
them

1840
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:17,679
decided now to

1841
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:20,320
to leave ttsa what's what's the story

1842
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:22,080
behind that

1843
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,679
uh i believe that they believe they were

1844
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:27,040
constrained

1845
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:30,800
by uh corporate policy

1846
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:34,480
and what they could say and wow

1847
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:38,080
the change in lou elizondo since he left

1848
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:41,520
praising ufo twitter going on

1849
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:45,120
uh multiple shows uh

1850
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:47,440
telling stuff that he's never told

1851
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,320
before

1852
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,159
and some things that are you know

1853
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,000
probably i hear are coming

1854
01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:54,800
i hope it's true and he is just

1855
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:56,400
completely transformed

1856
01:18:02,149 --> 01:17:59,920
and i don't believe chris and lou

1857
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,159
and steve justice are the type that want

1858
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:04,400
to belong to an entertainment company

1859
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:07,679
and ttsa's principal product

1860
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:10,800
to date outside of the initial videos

1861
01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:14,480
and the hoopla have been the books

1862
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:16,800
and the movie projects etc that are

1863
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:17,520
being an

1864
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:20,400
angel on airwaves uh because those are

1865
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,400
that asset is owned by ttsa

1866
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,320
i don't believe that they do done

1867
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,320
anything but art

1868
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,560
and and and media so i just don't think

1869
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,239
those guys are interested in that

1870
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,320
uh chris mellon is clearly cliche and

1871
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:34,320
lou are interested in influencing the

1872
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:35,040
government

1873
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:37,679
to officially get involved with the

1874
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:39,040
study of this

1875
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:42,400
and we should do you think

1876
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:47,760
um uh now this i just want your opinion

1877
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:50,560
okay uh but if we go back and we look at

1878
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:53,679
the timing of certain things

1879
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:56,239
and we go back to the formation of ttsa

1880
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:57,199
lou

1881
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,199
quits the government the day before ttsa

1882
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,360
does their public offering right that

1883
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:04,960
was the announcement

1884
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:09,920
and then uh three years later

1885
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:13,360
lou quits ttsa

1886
01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:16,560
as the same week that

1887
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:21,120
the uap task force gets funded

1888
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:23,440
and i'm just wondering as an outside

1889
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:25,040
observer

1890
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:28,880
is that too much of a coincidence or

1891
01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:32,080
is lou doing the same thing over and

1892
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,960
over again

1893
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,719
like he did when he left the government

1894
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,000
with ttsa

1895
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:39,120
now he's leaving ttsa when

1896
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,560
the uap task force is funded is the

1897
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:43,920
timing of that

1898
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,440
beyond coincidence so i don't believe

1899
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,679
that it's that i believe i believe

1900
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:50,960
that's too much

1901
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:53,199
to just be a coincidence okay i i

1902
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:55,920
believe there is a relationship

1903
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:59,120
so if i were betting man and guessing

1904
01:20:02,709 --> 01:19:59,760
man

1905
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:02,719
given the way lou is out and about

1906
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:03,440
talking

1907
01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:06,560
to ufo twitter and other things that

1908
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:07,120
it's

1909
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,159
unlikely he will go back into a top

1910
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:12,080
secret special intelligence

1911
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:15,040
highly classified special access program

1912
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:15,840
project

1913
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,400
because that'll end his relationship

1914
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:20,159
we'll never hear from him again

1915
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:23,360
until that ends okay so the person

1916
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:26,400
i think is most likely

1917
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:30,000
to be on the inside is melon

1918
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:32,800
and he because he worked at a very high

1919
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:33,440
level

1920
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:36,880
i mean the uap task force would be

1921
01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:40,239
very lucky to have a guy that

1922
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:43,040
knows the major part players on the

1923
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:45,120
senate select committee on

1924
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:48,320
since he used to work for them and after

1925
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,679
that he became

1926
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,360
deputy assistant secretary of defense

1927
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:54,320
for intelligence and work for cohen

1928
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:57,360
and so the guys played at a high level

1929
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:00,480
they would be lucky to have him and i

1930
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:02,800
think that's the kind of place

1931
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:05,280
given he's gotten all that going he'd

1932
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,440
love to be back in the mix

1933
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:09,760
doing the actual work rather than

1934
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,080
sitting on the outside i just feel

1935
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:14,719
like that so it's my opinion that it's

1936
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,560
likely melon goes in

1937
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:19,520
i don't see elizondo making the moves to

1938
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,639
get back in

1939
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,560
uh because he's talking too much and out

1940
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:23,840
loud and

1941
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:26,639
i just i just but i could be wrong and

1942
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:27,120
steve

1943
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:30,400
justice he's an engineer he is

1944
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:32,880
one of the best engineering managers

1945
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,920
that's ever

1946
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:36,000
worked for the government or one of its

1947
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:36,960
contractors

1948
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:39,440
he can go find a job anywhere if he

1949
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:40,159
wants to

1950
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:41,679
and he's just never been one of these

1951
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:44,239
people that's out front

1952
01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:48,719
so is ttsa now just in your opinion

1953
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:51,040
i think it's the opinion of many but

1954
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:53,040
just an entertainment company now the

1955
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:54,400
research side of it is

1956
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:57,440
is is gone i know that

1957
01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:59,360
the entertainment division is still

1958
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:01,280
there and going

1959
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:05,040
um i know that ryan had a conversation

1960
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:06,719
with jim cenavan

1961
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:10,400
and was assured with some details that

1962
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:14,480
ttsa was still going i am unaware

1963
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:18,080
of any of the engineering activities

1964
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,280
like for example

1965
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,040
i don't know whether this machine

1966
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:23,600
learning artificial intelligence

1967
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:26,719
scout etc stuff is actually going

1968
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:27,440
forward

1969
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:31,840
and the problem any such effort has

1970
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:35,360
is it takes a ton

1971
01:22:41,189 --> 01:22:38,639
of development a ton of

1972
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:41,199
data to train the machine learning

1973
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:41,920
models

1974
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:43,840
to do what they wanted it to do which

1975
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:46,639
was take cell phone data from a user

1976
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:48,880
put it in and say hey that's a ufo or

1977
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:49,760
whatever

1978
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:52,159
so it was do it was doing classification

1979
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:53,360
of events

1980
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,560
uh not not unlike what skyhub is doing

1981
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:59,520
except you have to have gobs of data to

1982
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:00,960
train the models

1983
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:04,639
and storing all that data requires cloud

1984
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:05,360
storage

1985
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:08,239
and it's expensive i believe they didn't

1986
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:09,920
have the money to pull it off

1987
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:12,320
and i could be wrong so the vault and

1988
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:13,120
the scout

1989
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,719
were one of the best things they were

1990
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,560
proposing and i'm just

1991
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,120
unaware of how they're going to do it i

1992
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:21,120
don't believe they have the developers

1993
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,480
and the reason i don't believe they

1994
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:24,560
don't have the developers is

1995
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,960
the kind of people that would do that

1996
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:28,560
for a job

1997
01:23:34,149 --> 01:23:32,000
are beyond expensive they're just

1998
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:34,159
extremely expensive because they can

1999
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,040
demand

2000
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:37,120
quarter million dollars a year or more

2001
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:38,960
doing it for a big corporation

2002
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:40,800
why would they do it for ttsa as a

2003
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:44,159
volunteer and so i just don't believe it

2004
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:46,480
so that kind of people are working for

2005
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:47,280
skyhub

2006
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,120
but it's nobody's making any money on

2007
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:51,199
sky hub everybody that's working on sky

2008
01:23:54,950 --> 01:23:51,679
hub

2009
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:54,960
is a volunteer how does

2010
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,080
uh a team

2011
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,639
work on ai which is something that you

2012
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:02,880
do but

2013
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:05,679
how big is that team it's not so one

2014
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:06,159
it's not

2015
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:09,440
one coder right no no no no because the

2016
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:10,639
work is too hard it's

2017
01:24:15,430 --> 01:24:12,239
too hard you gotta you gotta have

2018
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:15,440
somebody whose job it is to manage the

2019
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,600
computational infrastructure and

2020
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,600
somebody whose job it is

2021
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:22,080
to do the architecture for the machine

2022
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:24,239
learning environment and somebody who's

2023
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:25,280
a specialist

2024
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:27,840
and writing machine learning code to

2025
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:29,040
train the model

2026
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:31,840
somebody else's job is to take the model

2027
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:34,719
and manipulate it so it can be used on a

2028
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:36,400
small embedded device

2029
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:39,520
without having to spend a nuclear power

2030
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,080
plant

2031
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:42,400
to run the computer you could run it

2032
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:43,360
with a battery

2033
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:45,679
out in the field for a year okay that

2034
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,480
takes

2035
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:48,960
sir you got to package it so that it

2036
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:50,800
will work in any environment

2037
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,760
this takes a serious team and they i

2038
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:55,440
just don't believe they can afford that

2039
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:56,400
team

2040
01:25:00,310 --> 01:24:59,280
and how are you the the reason i say

2041
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,320
that is

2042
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:02,880
look at their public statements that

2043
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:05,120
they are required to file

2044
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:08,080
about their financial status somebody's

2045
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:09,440
writing personal checks

2046
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,920
or they don't have the money and how are

2047
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:13,120
you guys pulling off

2048
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,520
nearly the same thing with skyhub well

2049
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:17,280
everybody's doing it it's a volunteer

2050
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:17,920
activity

2051
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:20,800
it's slower but it's cheaper and yeah

2052
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:21,520
exactly

2053
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:24,560
and how many um how many engineers do

2054
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,080
you have working

2055
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:28,320
uh on the team right now uh i'm not a

2056
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,760
guest because i don't know them all

2057
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:31,440
because i'm not doing all of it i'm on

2058
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:33,120
doing my one little piece which i'm

2059
01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:34,239
happy to describe

2060
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:38,239
but but i'm gonna guess 50 oh

2061
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:41,280
substantial i mean it's about 50 so

2062
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:41,920
you've got

2063
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:46,000
of these teams

2064
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:48,000
works on one aspect and they have

2065
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:49,280
volunteers that work

2066
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,000
with them and so you know if you have

2067
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:54,239
steve mcdaniel corey gaspard

2068
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:57,520
uh richard who did the bot the 3d

2069
01:26:02,070 --> 01:25:59,600
printed box for everything so

2070
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:02,080
each of them has a team and you've got

2071
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:02,800
um

2072
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:04,880
you've got the science the division

2073
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:06,000
director it's just

2074
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:08,320
it's a team of people and each of them

2075
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:10,800
has a team of people working for them

2076
01:26:14,870 --> 01:26:14,000
so the the mad scientist podcast chris

2077
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:14,880
is

2078
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:18,000
group

2079
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:20,719
and i am a member of the science

2080
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:22,480
advisory group i don't run it

2081
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:24,400
i'm a member of it because i make

2082
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,679
recommendations about

2083
01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,000
things i'm expert in that's how it works

2084
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:30,080
and it's a public interest

2085
01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:33,199
project with a public interest group and

2086
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,040
an internet footprint

2087
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,880
and this we just don't want to have to

2088
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:38,480
spend a ton of money on people

2089
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,679
because we're not finding it any problem

2090
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:43,440
to get people to work because nobody's

2091
01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:45,520
getting paid

2092
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:47,679
how close are you we've just got a

2093
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:49,199
couple of minutes before the break

2094
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:52,400
um how close are you guys i

2095
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:56,000
i can plug my little computer uh i'll i

2096
01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:57,440
would show it to you so nobody else can

2097
01:27:01,910 --> 01:26:58,320
see it but you

2098
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:01,920
uh plug my little computer into uh

2099
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:04,320
the camera and it will grab pictures of

2100
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:06,560
things flying overhead in the sky

2101
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:09,920
and it'll listen to airplanes compute

2102
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:10,239
where

2103
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:13,440
satellites are it'll take temperatures

2104
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:16,639
measured measure gravitational anomalies

2105
01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:19,120
on and on so and what i'm trying to do

2106
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:20,080
personally

2107
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:22,080
is you as you you said earlier i'm a

2108
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:23,840
software defined radio expert

2109
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:26,719
so i've taken a special software defined

2110
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,520
radio

2111
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,600
i'm gonna plug it into one of these

2112
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:31,440
little nvidia embedded devices

2113
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:34,560
and listen to a television

2114
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:37,520
translation transmitter or an fm station

2115
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:38,560
transmitter

2116
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:42,000
and look for those signals to bounce off

2117
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:42,239
an

2118
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:46,560
that's a passive radar

2119
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:49,440
so i'm trying to add passive radar so

2120
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:50,719
that if an image

2121
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:53,679
is seen we can compute how far away it

2122
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:54,000
is

2123
01:27:58,070 --> 01:27:56,159
how fast it's moving relative to us and

2124
01:28:01,350 --> 01:27:58,080
track it across the sky

2125
01:28:02,709 --> 01:28:01,360
so we want this to be pretty doggone

2126
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:02,719
sophisticated

2127
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:05,920
and the nice thing is the the cost of

2128
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:07,360
the computers

2129
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:09,920
that need to be run to do these

2130
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:10,800
algorithms

2131
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:13,440
has fallen through the floor the passive

2132
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:14,000
radar

2133
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,639
board from nvidia is 59

2134
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:20,880
so and it's a super computer right right

2135
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:21,920
right right right

2136
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:25,520
and the uh

2137
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:30,000
is it tied into like flight tracker

2138
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:33,040
yes yes so flight aware yeah flightaware

2139
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:34,080
flight track

2140
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:36,480
we we have we have a thing called an rtl

2141
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:37,199
sdr

2142
01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:39,920
so software defined radio plugs into it

2143
01:28:42,709 --> 01:28:41,760
into the software defined radios comes

2144
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:42,719
an antenna

2145
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:45,920
that's tuned to 1090 megahertz

2146
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:48,800
because on 10 90 megahertz every

2147
01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:49,600
commercial

2148
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:53,360
airplane in the world transmits a beacon

2149
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:56,159
and so when a plane flies over that's

2150
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:57,440
from a commercial

2151
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:59,760
or military and not doing a secret

2152
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:00,480
operation

2153
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:02,960
they are required by law to emit this

2154
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:05,040
beacon we can track them right overhead

2155
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:07,760
and say that's not a ufo that's an

2156
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:09,679
airplane from united airlines

2157
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:12,800
at 35 000 feet going 600 knots

2158
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:15,280
to the southeast don't track it yeah we

2159
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,880
have all of that in there and then

2160
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,880
we don't want to track elon musk's

2161
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,960
satellites so there's an algorithm

2162
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:22,639
which computes where elon musk

2163
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:24,639
satellites are and several others

2164
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:26,960
and ignores those flashes when they go

2165
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:27,920
across the sky

2166
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:30,560
now uh i got to take a break right here

2167
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:30,960
but

2168
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:34,400
if uh if this is running

2169
01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:36,880
and everything is cool right

2170
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,320
everything's running

2171
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:40,719
what do you think the percentage of

2172
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:41,760
unknowns

2173
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:45,280
would be on a night oh that so

2174
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,400
it depends so and the answer is

2175
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:50,080
if you live way out in the middle of

2176
01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:52,320
nowhere there's not many people

2177
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:54,639
and so forth you don't even have many

2178
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:55,600
knowns

2179
01:30:02,470 --> 01:29:58,880
so almost everything you see will be

2180
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:02,480
an unknown if it's in your

2181
01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:04,480
machine learning codes ability to

2182
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,520
classify it

2183
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:07,199
so it'll throw a bunch of things in the

2184
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,280
unknown but if you're in an

2185
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:11,920
area near an airport you're really going

2186
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:12,320
to have

2187
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:15,040
some some trouble of picking out uh

2188
01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:15,920
without using

2189
01:30:22,470 --> 01:30:19,040
all of the sensors uh a

2190
01:30:24,390 --> 01:30:22,480
a video image of an actual unknown

2191
01:30:26,310 --> 01:30:24,400
from things that are known so you have

2192
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:26,320
to work at it so it depends on where you

2193
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:26,800
are

2194
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:29,120
you have different false alarm rates

2195
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:30,639
different false detects

2196
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:33,120
different false negatives and so forth

2197
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:34,560
all of that stuff

2198
01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:37,679
is used to make the model better

2199
01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:41,120
the way it works is the data you gather

2200
01:30:46,070 --> 01:30:44,000
goes into the cloud and in the cloud an

2201
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:46,080
automatic program is run

2202
01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:48,480
that makes the model better and so it's

2203
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:49,520
just over time

2204
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:51,679
you know how you know how tesla sends

2205
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:53,760
data back and every now and again they

2206
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:55,840
send new program elements so the car

2207
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:56,960
works better

2208
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:59,120
skyhub is going to do exactly the same

2209
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:00,800
thing and it's already doing it

2210
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:03,199
it's it's eliminating eliminating i need

2211
01:31:06,070 --> 01:31:04,000
to take a

2212
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:06,080
a break right here bob so let's get that

2213
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:08,080
in um when we come back i want to

2214
01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:10,239
continue this conversation about sky hub

2215
01:31:13,030 --> 01:31:11,440
i'm fascinated with that

2216
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:13,040
we got a lot more to talk about tonight

2217
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:14,639
our guest bob mcguire

2218
01:31:30,450 --> 01:31:16,719
our meals jimmy church this is fade to

2219
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:30,460
black stay with us we'll be right back

2220
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:40,709
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2221
01:31:45,669 --> 01:31:43,840
you're listening to fade to

2222
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,679
always on the edge of the hottest

2223
01:32:05,669 --> 01:31:47,760
alternative talk jimmy church

2224
01:32:09,750 --> 01:32:07,750
do you want to be an official fate or

2225
01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:09,760
not of course you do

2226
01:32:14,830 --> 01:32:11,840
this is jimmy churchill fade to black

2227
01:32:16,870 --> 01:32:14,840
just go to our membership section at

2228
01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:16,880
jimmychurchradio.com

2229
01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:18,800
fader knots when you think about the

2230
01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:20,639
future of our country and where we're

2231
01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:22,560
headed do you wonder about the food

2232
01:32:27,669 --> 01:32:23,440
supply

2233
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:27,679
chain could be disastrous

2234
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[Music]

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all right welcome back peter black i am

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your host jimmy church our guest tonight

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bob mcguire

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and uh before we get to bob i want to

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talk to you about virtual shield vpn

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been talking about this all week because

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right now

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there are suggestions that our credit

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scores

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might be based on our internet history

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in the near future the same way banks

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use data like income to judge credit

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eligibility uh right now is

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how websites could use internet search

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history

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in the future now this is what is

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interesting

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researchers studying the relationship

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between finance and tech

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found that data from your browsing your

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search history and your purchase history

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could be used to decide your credit

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in the future this is not a joke now if

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you want to prevent this from happening

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from your personal data

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i highly recommend using virtual shield

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it is the only thing

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we used here in the bunker it's built

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from the ground up

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for privacy that's why there's such a

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strict

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no logs policy go to virtualshield.com

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forward slash fade to black and go over

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to jimmychurchradio.com click on the

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vpn now uh our guess that bob mcguire

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and we're talking about

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uh uh his organization that he's a

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member of sky hub

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and the skyhub science advisory group

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and it's skyhub.org the links are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com um bob earlier

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you were talking about the ability to

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tap into television and radio antennas

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and use those for

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uh passive radar can you

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01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:02,239
uh get a size of

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the unknown can you get a size of the

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01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:06,320
craft probably not

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and the reason is the

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uh given that we're using passive radar

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and we don't want

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people who are deploying this radar

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equipment to have to spend

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lots and lots of money the we're not

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likely to find

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an emitter that puts out enough power

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01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:29,119
and at a high enough frequency that we

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01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:30,560
can resolve

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01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:33,520
what's on the craft so you'll see a blob

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01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:34,880
that reflects stuff

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01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:37,600
but it won't have any detail in the

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01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:38,800
radio frequency

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01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:42,000
image of the blob so but when

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01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:44,080
when everything is clicking on all

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cylinders

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and you've got a camera system employed

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01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:51,520
you will be able to capture video and

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01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:52,320
images

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01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:55,600
of the unknown at that moment yes

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01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:58,080
all things will be tied together and all

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01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:00,159
the sensors will be fused

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into one data object so you'll have

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video

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01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,920
you'll have radar your radar image

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01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:07,360
you'll have temperature

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01:39:12,629 --> 01:39:10,480
pressure gravity a magnetometer

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01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:12,639
all of that stuff will be fused together

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01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:14,000
into one data object

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01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:17,040
to send off and put in our cloud for

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01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:19,840
any science person or whoever wants to

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01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:21,040
to look at the data

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01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,760
now uh what are we looking at as far as

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01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:25,280
a timeline go to full

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01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:28,800
implementation so you we've got about

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01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:30,880
25 people with everything fully

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01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:32,239
developed and

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01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,679
testing it out now i i would say

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01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:37,760
there's no doubt covered 19 has slowed

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01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:39,520
everything down sure i'm going to guess

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01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:41,119
i'm going to guess by summer everything

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01:39:45,109 --> 01:39:43,119
will be out and it may it's pro

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01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:45,119
my feelings are it's before then but i

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01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:46,320
am pretty sure

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01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:48,400
summer will have everything out now how

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01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:49,360
can everybody

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01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:52,560
help out and and possibly support okay

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01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:52,880
so

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01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:55,679
go to skyhub.org that's one thing but

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01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:56,000
then

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01:40:01,470 --> 01:39:59,199
join in the interactions with others

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01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,480
who are doing development writing

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01:40:06,709 --> 01:40:03,199
documentation etc

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01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:06,719
on chat.skyhub.org

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01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:09,440
sign up for the chat you use your email

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01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:11,520
and you go in and you interact with the

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01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,520
developers with other users

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01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:15,920
with people who are building things and

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01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:16,800
it's

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01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,920
7 by 24 365 days a year

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01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:21,600
there's somebody on there that can help

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01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:23,119
you because there are

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01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:26,000
hundreds of people signed up for that

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01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:26,400
and

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01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:28,719
you will always find somebody there that

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01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:30,000
will help you get going

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01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:33,520
whose idea was this originally okay so

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01:40:40,629 --> 01:40:36,960
steve mcdaniel and i and joel

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01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:40,639
uh griffin founded uae ptn

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01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:43,920
and we we set up a corporation

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01:40:49,109 --> 01:40:46,400
joel decided he didn't want to go on

2436
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:49,119
steve decided that excite a corporation

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01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:52,400
was not the right way to go and so this

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01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:56,000
this public development group was

2439
01:41:01,109 --> 01:40:56,880
started

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01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:01,119
called sky hub i transferred

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01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:04,320
all of the assets of uaptm which was

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01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:04,800
money

2443
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:08,800
equipment etc to the sky hub activity

2444
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:12,719
and uh that's the way it went and then

2445
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,080
steve and corey and others which you can

2446
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,400
see if you go over to skyhub.org

2447
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:20,800
and look at the team directory you will

2448
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,400
see who is now kind of

2449
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:24,560
people who are in charge of some part of

2450
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:26,239
it is it

2451
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:30,000
is it a loose organization

2452
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:33,520
like um i'm gonna say anonymous

2453
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:38,080
in that everybody is playing their part

2454
01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:41,440
and and coming to the party but there

2455
01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:46,159
isn't a defined uh financial hierarchy

2456
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:47,679
there's not a defined financial

2457
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:49,600
hierarchy at all right

2458
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:53,040
there is serious technical leadership

2459
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:56,719
principally provided by steve mcdaniel

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01:42:00,550 --> 01:42:00,080
he i if there is a clear leader of sky

2461
01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:00,560
hub

2462
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:02,800
it's steve mcdaniel and you've got lots

2463
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:04,480
of other people who are contributing

2464
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:07,040
what they're good at but steve is the

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01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:08,159
architect

2466
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,320
and writing a bulk the bulk of the

2467
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:12,320
actual tracker code

2468
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,520
now once everything okay let's let's uh

2469
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:18,000
move forward to mid-summer the question

2470
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:18,719
that it is

2471
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:21,920
on everybody's mind is this

2472
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:24,880
um can i get a unit can i park it in my

2473
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,360
backyard whether i'm in joshua tree or

2474
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:29,119
kansas city

2475
01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:31,520
will i be able to do that can i become a

2476
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:33,600
part of the network

2477
01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:37,040
is that the ultimate goal yes

2478
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:39,119
you will be part of the network you will

2479
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:40,880
have to have internet access

2480
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:42,560
because we want the stuff to come to the

2481
01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:45,199
cloud so it'll help you and help it

2482
01:42:48,310 --> 01:42:47,199
you don't need to send all of your data

2483
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,320
to the cloud

2484
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:50,800
the entire group will be better off if

2485
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:52,320
you send the data to the cloud

2486
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:54,639
so you can do it all on your own keep

2487
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:56,800
all the data locally and never transfer

2488
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:58,560
it but i don't really think that helps

2489
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,080
no that doesn't do any good

2490
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:02,400
it does i don't think it well it may do

2491
01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:03,280
you some good

2492
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,199
but it doesn't do the world any good so

2493
01:43:10,870 --> 01:43:08,960
but the answer is you can park it in

2494
01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:10,880
your backyard you can park it in your

2495
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:13,040
backyard i'll tell you one of the people

2496
01:43:18,629 --> 01:43:16,239
that has volunteered uh to have one

2497
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:18,639
near her and that's melinda leslie and

2498
01:43:22,870 --> 01:43:19,360
sedona

2499
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:22,880
sure yeah she's perfect for that exactly

2500
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,280
yeah anybody in sedona but melinda

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01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:27,280
specifically would be great for that

2502
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:30,800
um describe the unit

2503
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:34,080
itself i mean it's got to be it's got to

2504
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:34,560
be

2505
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:37,440
weatherproof yeah yeah so there's a pre

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01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:38,800
3d printed

2507
01:43:45,510 --> 01:43:42,719
weatherproof box with ventilation assets

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01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:45,520
on it and there are little there are

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01:43:49,510 --> 01:43:46,239
doors

2510
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:49,520
on the equipment

2511
01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:51,440
close the door and it protects and then

2512
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:52,880
air flows through

2513
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:55,360
it has there's mounting positions for

2514
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:57,840
the individual hardware we recommend

2515
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:00,960
and so what power supply to put in there

2516
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,600
and it's it's it's pretty easy to build

2517
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:05,840
and there's always some on chat to help

2518
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:06,320
you

2519
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:09,679
now um cost

2520
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:13,119
so i would say an entry level unit is

2521
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:14,880
i'm gonna guess three or four hundred

2522
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:16,880
dollars that's everything

2523
01:44:19,990 --> 01:44:18,880
yeah because yeah they're pretty

2524
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:20,000
inexpensive and

2525
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:23,520
we've we there is there is a benefactor

2526
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:26,159
whose name i don't know who is

2527
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:28,639
underwriting the cost and tooling and

2528
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:29,760
everything else

2529
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:32,880
of the of these 3d printed boxes

2530
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:34,960
and you'll just pay for the materials

2531
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:36,800
and it'll be shipped to you

2532
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:39,840
so i can have an

2533
01:44:46,830 --> 01:44:43,199
online cloud-based

2534
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,840
ufo tracking

2535
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:49,760
machine in my yard

2536
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:52,960
for five hundred dollars yep so so look

2537
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:56,000
you can spend five thousand dollars but

2538
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,119
you don't need to be

2539
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:59,280
do that to get started and you can get a

2540
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:00,320
good camera

2541
01:45:03,750 --> 01:45:02,639
the temperature sensors and all these

2542
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:03,760
other sensors

2543
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,040
uh magnetometers accelerometers and

2544
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:09,760
etc and plug it there and it's four or

2545
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:11,600
five hundred dollars and

2546
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:15,600
and but the computer is 120 dollars

2547
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,600
and then you get the if you add the

2548
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:18,800
passive radar

2549
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:20,719
then you're going to spend more than

2550
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:23,199
that the passive radar is going to cost

2551
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:25,040
i'm thinking three to four hundred

2552
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:26,719
dollars all by itself

2553
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:28,480
right okay so that that'll be an

2554
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:29,760
expensive add-on

2555
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:32,800
you can buy a two and a half thousand

2556
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:33,600
dollar

2557
01:45:38,870 --> 01:45:36,480
pan tilt zoom camera on the other hand

2558
01:45:42,629 --> 01:45:38,880
you may not do it decide to do anything

2559
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:42,639
but put a 200 fisheye camera on it

2560
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:44,800
okay so in other words there's different

2561
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:46,320
levels of engagement

2562
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:48,320
you can you could say let me see if i

2563
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:50,000
like this and i got to tell you

2564
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:53,040
we had a early person come

2565
01:45:56,790 --> 01:45:55,280
join skyhub and is now a member of the

2566
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:56,800
official skyhub team

2567
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:59,440
they gotta got a fish eye camera plugged

2568
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:01,040
his little computer together

2569
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:03,679
in his box and put it up on the roof of

2570
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:05,360
his apartment building

2571
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:09,040
in houston and he got two uaps

2572
01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:12,880
man i gotta get me one of these

2573
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,719
yeah jimmy it's just you should you

2574
01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:15,920
should i just

2575
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:18,070
sell one of these get me

2576
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:21,440
[Laughter]

2577
01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:25,360
oh man uh rita would do anything for me

2578
01:46:29,830 --> 01:46:27,520
to start off in guitars to do something

2579
01:46:32,950 --> 01:46:29,840
productive with my life

2580
01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:32,960
but no but this is exciting and there

2581
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:33,760
has been

2582
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:35,840
as you know there's been several

2583
01:46:39,510 --> 01:46:36,880
projects

2584
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:39,520
over the last few decades that have all

2585
01:46:44,950 --> 01:46:41,199
had

2586
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:44,960
this idea behind it right a community

2587
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:46,719
organization let's get together let's

2588
01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:48,000
figure it out let's try to get

2589
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,159
out of this network let's get the the

2590
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:52,239
hardware done let's get some automation

2591
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:53,679
into this system

2592
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:56,400
but today with technology we're able to

2593
01:46:59,350 --> 01:46:57,600
actually

2594
01:47:01,510 --> 01:46:59,360
you know uh put this together because

2595
01:47:04,550 --> 01:47:01,520
anything that you can dream up now

2596
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:04,560
pretty much you can get done and and now

2597
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:06,400
this is the first opportunity where we

2598
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:08,480
can see this uh

2599
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:10,960
become real i think this is not

2600
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:12,880
completely original we know

2601
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:15,600
we know of people uh near the border of

2602
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:16,639
new mexico

2603
01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:19,199
and colorado that have tried to do this

2604
01:47:22,629 --> 01:47:20,639
yes they had a different

2605
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:22,639
overall approach i'm not saying their

2606
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:23,760
approach is right

2607
01:47:27,430 --> 01:47:26,480
or wrong it's just different and one of

2608
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:27,440
the things that we

2609
01:47:33,669 --> 01:47:30,480
are insisting on doing

2610
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:33,679
and everybody signs up to this it's all

2611
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:36,880
open source it's open specification

2612
01:47:40,709 --> 01:47:38,080
hardware

2613
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:40,719
there are literally no secrets the data

2614
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:42,480
goes into a cloud

2615
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:46,000
it's protected against tampering and

2616
01:47:50,470 --> 01:47:48,800
uh anyone can access the data there are

2617
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,480
no secrets in sky hub

2618
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:52,800
now and this is okay now let's get to

2619
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:55,600
the reality of the situation

2620
01:48:02,470 --> 01:47:59,119
right now the government

2621
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:02,480
is in control of acquiring this data

2622
01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:04,560
and what is released to the public

2623
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:05,840
that's it right

2624
01:48:10,390 --> 01:48:09,600
yep yep now you are able to do this

2625
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:10,400
privately

2626
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:12,400
that's that's the first thing second

2627
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:14,000
this is outside of the government's

2628
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:14,960
control

2629
01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:18,880
that's correct is there

2630
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:23,360
is there a possibility of of opposition

2631
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,639
from the government look they

2632
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:29,679
they uh they've had a monopoly

2633
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:32,000
right they've had a monopoly on the

2634
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:32,880
information

2635
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:35,760
okay so let me let me say let me say

2636
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:36,400
this

2637
01:48:44,109 --> 01:48:40,480
the government typically has

2638
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:44,119
the use of exquisite

2639
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:48,480
extremely expensive beyond ridiculously

2640
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:49,920
capable equipment

2641
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:52,320
that they don't want to advertise to our

2642
01:48:54,629 --> 01:48:54,000
adversaries or anyone else for that

2643
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:54,639
matter

2644
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,840
how capable it is what are the facts you

2645
01:49:02,149 --> 01:48:58,960
don't need that

2646
01:49:05,790 --> 01:49:02,159
to detect uaps you don't need it

2647
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:05,800
you can get by with what you can buy off

2648
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:09,440
amazon.com and etc glue it together

2649
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:12,400
in your workshop and put it out on your

2650
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,880
roof and find uaps

2651
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:16,960
i'm looking at some of the images from

2652
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,239
the sky hub

2653
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:20,320
website right here the enclosure version

2654
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:21,520
1.1

2655
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:23,360
in that because you're beautiful richard

2656
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,280
hoffman richard hoff did that so

2657
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:27,280
it's an international organization

2658
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:29,760
richard comes to us from australia

2659
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:32,800
austria sorry austria and he designed it

2660
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,360
and says

2661
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,520
how does this look and we all fell in

2662
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:37,440
love with it and so there's a benefactor

2663
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:38,239
come along

2664
01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:40,000
that's going to we we believe is going

2665
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:41,599
to underwrite the cost of

2666
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:43,440
getting that going and then you'll be

2667
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:45,679
able to buy one inexpensively

2668
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:47,199
yeah i'm looking at the the bill of

2669
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:48,880
materials right here wow this is

2670
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:51,920
uh this is exciting uh

2671
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:55,199
i what i don't see i don't wanna i'm not

2672
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:56,000
poo pooing on

2673
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:00,320
it but the government has enjoyed

2674
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:03,599
uh our inability to do this yeah

2675
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:06,000
that you know why do you think why do

2676
01:50:10,229 --> 01:50:07,040
you think we're doing it

2677
01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:10,239
we want that to end right right um is

2678
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:12,159
there

2679
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:15,199
um do you vet the people

2680
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:19,040
that uh become a part of sky hub

2681
01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:20,480
no some of them could be government

2682
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:22,320
disinformation agents that's my

2683
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:25,679
question no no no actually no richard

2684
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:28,000
dodie's not on the board of directors

2685
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:30,560
no no i don't i don't think there is a

2686
01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:31,760
board of directors

2687
01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:33,760
there's a team and richard dodie's

2688
01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:36,159
picture is not a member of the team

2689
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:37,920
he might be on the science advisory

2690
01:50:41,669 --> 01:50:39,440
board because i don't know everybody

2691
01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:41,679
who's on it

2692
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:45,280
um i i can't imagine

2693
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:46,880
uh because they want to control

2694
01:50:50,950 --> 01:50:48,480
information that's it

2695
01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:50,960
and having something like this out there

2696
01:50:55,589 --> 01:50:52,320
uh open source

2697
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:55,599
ready to go um with data

2698
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:57,599
that they have been holding back from us

2699
01:51:03,109 --> 01:50:59,920
because we can't handle the truth

2700
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:03,119
now we are in control of finding our

2701
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:06,480
own truth do you imagine

2702
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:09,520
some kind of uh opposition coming in and

2703
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:12,880
would you be surprised if it happened

2704
01:51:15,910 --> 01:51:15,280
um i would not be surprised if somebody

2705
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:15,920
tried to

2706
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:19,119
talk some people out of it uh i just

2707
01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:20,159
don't understand

2708
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:23,440
the lever they will pull so i don't work

2709
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:24,800
for the government anymore and i don't

2710
01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:25,760
have a clearance

2711
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:27,520
so i don't see how they can pull a lever

2712
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:29,840
on me and keep me from doing passive

2713
01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:30,560
radar

2714
01:51:36,550 --> 01:51:34,400
right now maybe so so

2715
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:36,560
maybe they would say hey radar and

2716
01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:39,280
software defined radio or itar

2717
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:41,280
and so you can't send that stuff

2718
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:42,480
overseas

2719
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:45,840
it's too late the facts are by doing it

2720
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:47,199
open source

2721
01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:50,719
and publishing the details in a written

2722
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:53,920
place of everything you've done that's a

2723
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:54,639
loophole

2724
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,679
to escape out the door and itar doesn't

2725
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:58,880
apply

2726
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:01,520
and it's educational because it's an

2727
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:02,960
educational activity

2728
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:05,119
nobody's trying to make money it's not a

2729
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:06,400
commercial activity

2730
01:52:11,109 --> 01:52:08,480
so there you go they would have a hard

2731
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:11,119
time trying to close us down because

2732
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:14,320
we're not selling anything when you

2733
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:17,360
hear yeah exactly um

2734
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,760
uh we are purchasing the bill of

2735
01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:21,679
materials on our own

2736
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:23,360
exactly you're not a manufacturer one of

2737
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:25,440
the major that's one of the major

2738
01:52:29,189 --> 01:52:26,159
reasons

2739
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:29,199
for doing it diy we won't have any

2740
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:32,239
say sepps countries in europe uh

2741
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:35,440
enforcing uh product acceptance on us

2742
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:38,000
causing us to spend a million dollars to

2743
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:39,920
make sure we don't interfere

2744
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:42,000
with the child's tinker toy no we don't

2745
01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:43,040
want to fool with that

2746
01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:44,880
right right and i know you're watching

2747
01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:46,560
me bob i've got uh

2748
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:49,119
what's happening uh in your front yard

2749
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:50,560
over here

2750
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:52,800
and uh things are really getting

2751
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:53,679
interesting

2752
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:58,639
uh right now we're right up next to it

2753
01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:01,679
man maybe we'll uh know something by the

2754
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:02,400
end of the show

2755
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:05,760
pretty interesting uh uh i i'm just

2756
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:06,639
distracted

2757
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:08,800
it's uh it's pretty fascinating to see

2758
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:10,080
things develop

2759
01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:11,920
the future of our country and how it

2760
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,560
goes is determined by this

2761
01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:16,560
so it's interesting it's intense man

2762
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:17,679
it's intense

2763
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:21,280
i uh let me say this the audience

2764
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:22,639
doesn't know this so

2765
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:26,480
um let me just say this i

2766
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:29,599
need my

2767
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:34,080
beauty nap and so that is to say

2768
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:37,440
that uh i work all day right i'm writing

2769
01:53:41,669 --> 01:53:37,679
i'm

2770
01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:41,679
things done you know things done

2771
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,080
and then um at about four o'clock

2772
01:53:50,790 --> 01:53:49,280
i go to bed right i take a nap i just

2773
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:50,800
take a nap i take a power nap i don't

2774
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:52,480
care if it's 15 minutes

2775
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:54,960
or if it's an hour hour and a half but i

2776
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:56,800
need to do it before the show so when

2777
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:58,080
the show hits

2778
01:54:02,070 --> 01:54:01,040
i'm i'm just fresh right i'm fresh i'm

2779
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:02,080
good

2780
01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:04,400
i didn't take no power and power nap

2781
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:06,639
today

2782
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:10,000
no no no no 4 p.m central time

2783
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:12,400
i turned on the news and i was glued

2784
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:14,400
there i had to set an alarm

2785
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,400
so i wouldn't be late for you i was like

2786
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,560
and i went talk to rita said uh you know

2787
01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:22,560
she's like did you take a nap

2788
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:26,639
no no uh i went full circuit today man

2789
01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:27,360
yeah this is

2790
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:30,000
uh this is just in insane what is going

2791
01:54:34,229 --> 01:54:30,719
down

2792
01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:34,239
okay um uh

2793
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:41,990
what is it ultimately

2794
01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:45,599
that washington dc

2795
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:48,880
knows about et and

2796
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:52,480
contact that they are not telling us

2797
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:55,119
i can tell you the honest-to-goodness

2798
01:54:59,270 --> 01:54:56,400
truth is

2799
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:59,280
i don't know i've never been able to

2800
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:00,400
figure it out

2801
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:04,000
i don't understand what so so just

2802
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:07,360
so let me but let me go on i'm being

2803
01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:09,440
honest i don't know what the reasons are

2804
01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:18,790
there there's got to be a reason

2805
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:21,199
that they are keeping the actual

2806
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:22,560
existence

2807
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:24,719
see they don't have to tell us a single

2808
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:25,599
classified

2809
01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:29,040
fact to say these things exist

2810
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:32,239
so that the only reason

2811
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:35,920
not to even admit the existence

2812
01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:40,560
is to me it's something awful

2813
01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:43,360
that's how i feel about it so i keep

2814
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:44,080
waiting

2815
01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:47,040
for that shoe to drop for the big leak

2816
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:48,239
that says

2817
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:51,119
yes we've kept it secret for 70 years

2818
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:52,080
we've committed

2819
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:54,560
vicious crimes we've we've done things

2820
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:56,880
that people could sue us to oblivion for

2821
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:59,119
and it was all because we were covering

2822
01:56:04,149 --> 01:56:00,800
up something awful

2823
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:04,159
that's a story i can actually believe

2824
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:06,960
okay so but i but so i don't because i

2825
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:09,040
don't understand

2826
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:12,719
i can't fathom a benign reason

2827
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:16,080
for keeping it secret because

2828
01:56:20,229 --> 01:56:19,040
from what you see in our literature and

2829
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:20,239
if you believe it

2830
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:22,560
and at the end of the cold war when the

2831
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:23,920
soviet union fell

2832
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:26,560
the wall came down and george went over

2833
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:28,639
to moscow and looked at all the records

2834
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:30,960
and so forth and so on the russians and

2835
01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:33,199
the chinese have as many of these things

2836
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:36,239
as we are told we do by others so

2837
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:38,080
they're checking into it as well as us

2838
01:56:42,149 --> 01:56:39,679
so it can't be

2839
01:56:43,189 --> 01:56:42,159
us admitting this would give our

2840
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:43,199
adversaries an

2841
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:45,840
advantage that just doesn't wash with me

2842
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:48,320
i believe there's some aspect of this

2843
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:51,040
that they are afraid to tell us because

2844
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:52,159
it's awful

2845
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:55,280
because they're terrified of it yes

2846
01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:58,320
and we know that all this stuff that

2847
01:57:02,470 --> 01:56:59,360
we've heard of for

2848
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:02,480
for 50 years about the collins elite and

2849
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:04,320
that we're dealing with a demon

2850
01:57:11,109 --> 01:57:07,520
they're terrified the

2851
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:11,119
uh the other part of that uh though bob

2852
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:12,960
and we'll talk about this more after the

2853
01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:15,360
break um

2854
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:19,199
if it was benign and announcing a

2855
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:20,960
cooperation with e.t

2856
01:57:25,750 --> 01:57:23,360
or the acquiring of knowledge and not

2857
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:25,760
only free energy but disease and health

2858
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:26,080
and

2859
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:31,440
our et brothers

2860
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:34,320
that's not a bad announcement that's one

2861
01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:35,920
that we could handle and we could

2862
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:37,199
understand

2863
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:40,000
okay it just may be what you're

2864
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:42,080
suggesting

2865
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:44,880
except everybody's watched star trek so

2866
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:46,880
they may have the equivalent

2867
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:49,440
of the prime directive which says

2868
01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:51,040
they're not allowed to give us that

2869
01:57:54,149 --> 01:57:52,159
stuff because

2870
01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:54,159
in the interaction of an extremely

2871
01:57:57,270 --> 01:57:55,520
advanced civilization

2872
01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:57,280
with one that's not so extremely

2873
01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:59,599
advanced the one that's not so extremely

2874
01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:00,320
advanced

2875
01:58:03,510 --> 01:58:02,639
withers and dies maybe that's what they

2876
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:03,520
believe and so

2877
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:06,080
they're restricting what they give us

2878
01:58:09,669 --> 01:58:07,599
out of some principle

2879
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:09,679
like the prime directive that would make

2880
01:58:14,149 --> 01:58:10,639
sense to me

2881
01:58:16,870 --> 01:58:14,159
but but still that is not a reason

2882
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:16,880
not to tell the american people and the

2883
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:17,599
world

2884
01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:20,800
they exist well okay so then we have a

2885
01:58:26,629 --> 01:58:24,639
excuse me so we have a problem

2886
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:26,639
and the problem is this in the most

2887
01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:28,239
recent article

2888
01:58:32,629 --> 01:58:30,159
uh published by the new york times

2889
01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:32,639
leslie kane and ralph blumenthal

2890
01:58:39,669 --> 01:58:36,000
at the bottom of the article buried

2891
01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:39,679
is that quote from eric davis

2892
01:58:46,470 --> 01:58:43,440
where he says i debriefed the senate

2893
01:58:49,350 --> 01:58:46,480
and told them we are in possession of

2894
01:58:49,990 --> 01:58:49,360
and he didn't mince words of crashed

2895
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,000
flying

2896
01:58:55,510 --> 01:58:53,040
saucers yep no he did not mince words

2897
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:55,520
no and the new york times editorial

2898
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:56,320
board

2899
01:59:03,669 --> 01:58:59,679
allowed leslie and ralph to put

2900
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:03,679
etc put that in the article that means

2901
01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:07,520
the editorial board was convinced

2902
01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:09,920
how were they convinced i don't know any

2903
01:59:13,189 --> 01:59:10,719
other way

2904
01:59:14,709 --> 01:59:13,199
than to be shown evidence well uh we

2905
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:14,719
need to take a break right here but when

2906
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:16,159
we come back we're going to continue

2907
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:18,560
this part of the conversation because

2908
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:22,000
what was confusing to me is that

2909
01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:25,360
is a gift to a journalist

2910
01:59:33,669 --> 01:59:29,119
that paragraph is a gift you go

2911
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:33,679
you chase down eric davis and go wtf

2912
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:37,280
right what is it that

2913
01:59:44,790 --> 01:59:41,760
makes you say this in the new york times

2914
01:59:47,669 --> 01:59:44,800
where you are quoted and it's a gift

2915
01:59:49,109 --> 01:59:47,679
and nobody followed up on that nobody i

2916
01:59:51,990 --> 01:59:49,119
i write that whole article

2917
01:59:53,589 --> 01:59:52,000
and i read i i the rest of the articles

2918
01:59:56,709 --> 01:59:53,599
it was whatever

2919
01:59:57,830 --> 01:59:56,719
um i i told ralph it was a rehash right

2920
01:59:59,510 --> 01:59:57,840
it was

2921
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:59,520
and then that little piece that little

2922
02:00:02,790 --> 02:00:01,520
snippet that was a bombshell that was a

2923
02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:02,800
bomb show

2924
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:05,440
nobody crickets let's take our break

2925
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right here this is fade to blacker guess

2926
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tonight the one and only bob mcguire

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gonna continue this conversation when we

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welcome back fade to black i'm nervous

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jimmy church i guess tonight bob mcguire

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02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:13,280
i expected this kind of conversation

3037
02:05:16,390 --> 02:05:14,719
tonight like i said before the break

3038
02:05:19,510 --> 02:05:16,400
we're just getting started

3039
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saving the best for last and uh

3040
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just picking up where we left off um and

3041
02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:23,360
that is

3042
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:26,639
uh uh dr eric davis and that quote in

3043
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the new york times bob

3044
02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:30,239
uh that said that the united states

3045
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government is in possession of

3046
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crashed flying saucers uh those are his

3047
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words not mine

3048
02:05:43,830 --> 02:05:42,000
um what does uh and i want to get to

3049
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:43,840
we had ryan bledsoe on the show last

3050
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:45,040
night i don't want to talk about chris

3051
02:05:49,189 --> 02:05:46,800
and what's going on down there

3052
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:49,199
um but i think everything is kind of

3053
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tied together here

3054
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:54,079
um what is it that do you what is it

3055
02:05:57,669 --> 02:05:55,440
that eric davis

3056
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was trying to say he didn't go back and

3057
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correct his quote

3058
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he didn't change it there wasn't a

3059
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:02,880
retraction

3060
02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:06,159
by the new york times so it

3061
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:08,800
stayed there and now that becomes part

3062
02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:10,880
of the public record

3063
02:06:14,470 --> 02:06:13,679
it's there who was he speaking to at the

3064
02:06:18,149 --> 02:06:14,480
senate

3065
02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:18,159
was he did you know the questions are

3066
02:06:22,149 --> 02:06:19,199
are obvious

3067
02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:22,159
where's the congressional record of that

3068
02:06:26,229 --> 02:06:23,599
uh debriefing

3069
02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:26,239
uh number one and number two were those

3070
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:27,119
the words

3071
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:31,199
that he used with the senate

3072
02:06:36,149 --> 02:06:33,360
i mean because we're not talking about

3073
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:36,159
uaps we're not talking about chinese

3074
02:06:39,830 --> 02:06:38,000
uh technology we're not talking about

3075
02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:39,840
russian tech that's not what he

3076
02:06:46,149 --> 02:06:43,520
said he said flying saucers

3077
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:46,159
right do you want the words that were in

3078
02:06:49,430 --> 02:06:47,119
the new york times

3079
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:49,440
right right are are you in contact with

3080
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:50,560
eric davis

3081
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:52,880
so he and i have had an interaction a

3082
02:06:55,589 --> 02:06:53,840
couple of times

3083
02:06:58,310 --> 02:06:55,599
but we are not acquaintances and not

3084
02:07:02,229 --> 02:06:58,320
friends and we don't interact

3085
02:07:04,149 --> 02:07:02,239
if if uh if you have to

3086
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:04,159
do something extract something out of

3087
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:06,400
that statement what was it that eric

3088
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:09,679
said well i believe it's a quote so i

3089
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:11,520
believe he said exactly those things

3090
02:07:14,629 --> 02:07:13,679
now the parts that are not in the

3091
02:07:17,669 --> 02:07:14,639
article

3092
02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:17,679
are the parts that eric considered it

3093
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:19,760
was his duty not to tell because of

3094
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:20,880
classification

3095
02:07:24,550 --> 02:07:24,000
so i assumed he didn't say here's who

3096
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:24,560
has it

3097
02:07:27,669 --> 02:07:26,800
here's where it is here's what's being

3098
02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:27,679
done to it

3099
02:07:31,109 --> 02:07:30,320
if he knows because that's classified

3100
02:07:34,149 --> 02:07:31,119
but

3101
02:07:35,270 --> 02:07:34,159
i just i'm i'm i don't understand what's

3102
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:35,280
classified

3103
02:07:41,750 --> 02:07:39,119
about saying admitting the existence

3104
02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:41,760
i don't understand why the existence is

3105
02:07:46,069 --> 02:07:42,960
a classified

3106
02:07:48,709 --> 02:07:46,079
fact and i i don't

3107
02:07:49,350 --> 02:07:48,719
i can't believe he said that out in the

3108
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:49,360
open

3109
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:51,840
without permission so that it was kind

3110
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:54,239
of already in some way declassified

3111
02:08:00,790 --> 02:07:57,440
so that's number one number two uh

3112
02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:00,800
if he gave that briefing to the senate

3113
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:02,639
select committee or the house

3114
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:04,719
intelligence committee

3115
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,320
that can be done off the record

3116
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,280
in the basement of the capitol building

3117
02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:13,280
where there is a secure facility

3118
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:15,599
for giving classified briefings and no

3119
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:17,360
one would know

3120
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:20,960
now there's uh two ways to look at this

3121
02:08:26,950 --> 02:08:24,159
a he may have said it

3122
02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:26,960
but he didn't say it directly to any

3123
02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:28,480
senators

3124
02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:31,599
or a committee he set it to

3125
02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:34,800
an assistant staffers a staffer in the

3126
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:35,599
hallway

3127
02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:38,719
right and

3128
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:41,760
and it's he he

3129
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:44,800
misled in the quote

3130
02:08:48,790 --> 02:08:48,000
that he was you know in a secret

3131
02:08:51,830 --> 02:08:48,800
committee

3132
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:51,840
uh briefing where he's he's talking to

3133
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:55,280
senators or it was something else and it

3134
02:09:00,950 --> 02:08:57,760
was completely taken out of context

3135
02:09:02,310 --> 02:09:00,960
and eric is misleading the new york

3136
02:09:06,870 --> 02:09:02,320
times and the public

3137
02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:06,880
in that statement or it's just a lie

3138
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:09,599
he never said anything to any senators

3139
02:09:13,350 --> 02:09:10,159
and

3140
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:13,360
he just made that statement because

3141
02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:15,679
and it's in there and he did it for his

3142
02:09:19,109 --> 02:09:16,639
own

3143
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:19,119
self gratification and i'm not saying i

3144
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:20,560
know anything i'm saying there's

3145
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:22,400
there's only really two ways to look at

3146
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:25,280
this or or a possible third it went down

3147
02:09:28,950 --> 02:09:26,800
the way he said it did

3148
02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:28,960
okay so so i i understand what you're

3149
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:30,000
saying let me

3150
02:09:33,830 --> 02:09:32,079
let me give you my perspective my

3151
02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:33,840
perspective is this

3152
02:09:40,709 --> 02:09:38,079
he continues to work in a classified

3153
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:40,719
environment for the aerospace

3154
02:09:45,270 --> 02:09:42,000
corporation

3155
02:09:47,750 --> 02:09:45,280
which is the number one think tank for

3156
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:47,760
the national reconnaissance office the

3157
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:50,000
space force and the air force

3158
02:09:54,069 --> 02:09:52,480
they are the think tank for those three

3159
02:09:55,189 --> 02:09:54,079
entities and others but those are the

3160
02:09:58,390 --> 02:09:55,199
big ones

3161
02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:58,400
he he he won't be able to keep his job

3162
02:10:01,750 --> 02:10:00,639
if he's out lying to senators and

3163
02:10:03,589 --> 02:10:01,760
members of the house

3164
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:03,599
at the aerospace corporation because

3165
02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:05,520
that's a federally funded research and

3166
02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:06,560
development center

3167
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:08,560
and congress has cut his you know what

3168
02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:09,679
off

3169
02:10:12,709 --> 02:10:11,440
it just wouldn't it's just i don't

3170
02:10:15,510 --> 02:10:12,719
believe he's lying

3171
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:15,520
i don't believe he did this without

3172
02:10:20,149 --> 02:10:17,040
being allowed to

3173
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:20,159
the evidence that and my perspective

3174
02:10:24,790 --> 02:10:23,520
says he's at aerospace he's got his

3175
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:24,800
security clearance

3176
02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:27,520
what they do is classified work he would

3177
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:28,079
be in

3178
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:30,639
trouble if he did that and went into the

3179
02:10:34,950 --> 02:10:31,840
new york times

3180
02:10:36,069 --> 02:10:34,960
and he didn't have permission i just i

3181
02:10:39,990 --> 02:10:36,079
believe that was

3182
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:40,000
all approved and planned okay and

3183
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:43,440
and i believe that that is a possibility

3184
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:45,920
i i could lean on that side so if we

3185
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:47,599
take that tack

3186
02:10:55,350 --> 02:10:52,000
why in the world didn't leslie kane

3187
02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:55,360
or ralph blumenthal ask

3188
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:58,560
a follow-up question why did they just

3189
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:00,960
leave that lie

3190
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:03,520
maybe they did ask follow-up questions

3191
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:05,360
and he says this has to be off the

3192
02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:07,040
record

3193
02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:10,480
at any time

3194
02:11:16,629 --> 02:11:13,679
well it's all

3195
02:11:17,189 --> 02:11:16,639
the big stuff is already on the record

3196
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:17,199
right

3197
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:19,360
so far as i'm concerned that was major

3198
02:11:25,270 --> 02:11:22,000
and so look you remember i'm telling you

3199
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:25,280
i don't understand why there's been no

3200
02:11:29,189 --> 02:11:26,159
admission

3201
02:11:30,310 --> 02:11:29,199
of existence so we've gotten really

3202
02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:30,320
close

3203
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:32,560
them saying these things are

3204
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:34,639
unidentified aerial phenomenon

3205
02:11:38,470 --> 02:11:37,040
that are interacting with our us

3206
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:38,480
military personnel

3207
02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:42,159
and and flying over and acting out

3208
02:11:47,990 --> 02:11:45,199
in closed military spaces

3209
02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:48,000
of national security spaces and we don't

3210
02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:49,040
like it

3211
02:11:54,709 --> 02:11:52,400
saying that's true is in existence proof

3212
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:54,719
of phenomenon okay that they don't

3213
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:55,440
understand

3214
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:56,880
otherwise they wouldn't say it's

3215
02:12:02,550 --> 02:11:59,119
unidentified that's number one

3216
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:02,560
and number two to then be allowed

3217
02:12:08,149 --> 02:12:06,880
to go say we have flying saucers in our

3218
02:12:10,709 --> 02:12:08,159
possession

3219
02:12:11,750 --> 02:12:10,719
means they were piloted by an

3220
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:11,760
intelligence

3221
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:15,280
and a consciousness that is not us

3222
02:12:19,669 --> 02:12:17,679
that's what that says to me and the two

3223
02:12:23,189 --> 02:12:19,679
the two don't mix

3224
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:23,199
or

3225
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:24,960
you don't if you want to say you don't

3226
02:12:27,910 --> 02:12:26,480
understand the phenomena we

3227
02:12:30,149 --> 02:12:27,920
we know things are coming in there as

3228
02:12:31,510 --> 02:12:30,159
well but we don't quite understand what

3229
02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:31,520
is going on

3230
02:12:35,830 --> 02:12:34,000
okay i i get that but if you have flying

3231
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:35,840
saucers in your possession

3232
02:12:42,069 --> 02:12:39,280
you are cognizant you know exactly

3233
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:42,079
what is going on so the two stories it

3234
02:12:46,950 --> 02:12:43,520
can't cross over

3235
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:46,960
you can't have both examples be true

3236
02:12:50,069 --> 02:12:49,040
so you can have the office of naval

3237
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:50,079
intelligence

3238
02:12:54,950 --> 02:12:53,280
and some some groups in the pentagon say

3239
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:54,960
we see these things flying around the

3240
02:12:59,350 --> 02:12:56,719
nimitz and the teddy roosevelt

3241
02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:59,360
and they may not be anything like the

3242
02:13:02,870 --> 02:13:00,719
flying saucers

3243
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:02,880
that we have in our possession and

3244
02:13:07,189 --> 02:13:03,840
therefore

3245
02:13:10,709 --> 02:13:07,199
those things are truly unidentified

3246
02:13:13,189 --> 02:13:10,719
is that okay and that's an out yes

3247
02:13:14,629 --> 02:13:13,199
so if they are not like what we have

3248
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:14,639
they're unidentified

3249
02:13:21,430 --> 02:13:18,880
a b-52 doesn't look like a boeing 737

3250
02:13:24,149 --> 02:13:21,440
so if i've never seen a b-52 before but

3251
02:13:25,109 --> 02:13:24,159
i have a boeing 737 in the hangar the

3252
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:25,119
b-52

3253
02:13:30,149 --> 02:13:28,239
is unidentified and the the other

3254
02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:30,159
problem that we have

3255
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:33,040
is either we're dealing with something

3256
02:13:38,629 --> 02:13:35,119
benevolent or benevolent

3257
02:13:39,350 --> 02:13:38,639
we have the uap task force and the

3258
02:13:43,030 --> 02:13:39,360
senate

3259
02:13:45,430 --> 02:13:43,040
and the presentations to them about

3260
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:45,440
interference with our military and the

3261
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:46,560
fear factor there

3262
02:13:50,470 --> 02:13:48,880
we've got to defend and protect our

3263
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:50,480
borders and our military

3264
02:13:54,950 --> 02:13:52,960
so the fear factor is played and then

3265
02:13:58,069 --> 02:13:54,960
you have the other side with

3266
02:14:01,350 --> 02:13:58,079
uh uh chris bledsoe

3267
02:14:04,629 --> 02:14:01,360
and and others that have had nothing but

3268
02:14:07,750 --> 02:14:04,639
kind interaction where there hasn't been

3269
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:07,760
any offensive plays going on the

3270
02:14:11,510 --> 02:14:08,480
government

3271
02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:11,520
is in communication with chris bledsoe

3272
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:14,639
about this fact right again

3273
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:16,719
we have the two things conflicting don't

3274
02:14:22,229 --> 02:14:18,320
we

3275
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:22,239
so uh there are members of

3276
02:14:25,830 --> 02:14:23,840
members of the government or former

3277
02:14:27,350 --> 02:14:25,840
members of the government that interact

3278
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:27,360
with chris bledsoe

3279
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:31,360
okay so it is not well known

3280
02:14:36,709 --> 02:14:34,880
and i'll just tell you several members

3281
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:36,719
of ttsa

3282
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,880
which was announced to all of us in the

3283
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:40,000
fall of october

3284
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:43,840
2017 that been to chris bledsoe's house

3285
02:14:50,229 --> 02:14:47,040
interacted with him in 2015

3286
02:14:53,270 --> 02:14:50,239
two years before ttsa was announced

3287
02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:53,280
okay so they may not have been a

3288
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:54,079
corporation

3289
02:14:58,149 --> 02:14:56,480
then but they knew each other and they

3290
02:15:01,430 --> 02:14:58,159
interacted with chris

3291
02:15:04,950 --> 02:15:01,440
and if the story we were told

3292
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:04,960
is true if the story we were told is

3293
02:15:08,950 --> 02:15:06,000
true that's my phone

3294
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:08,960
i'm very sorry i thought that came from

3295
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:10,000
in here

3296
02:15:13,910 --> 02:15:12,239
no man i'm sorry let me let me mute this

3297
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:13,920
thing

3298
02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:16,960
okay so anyway that came from was that

3299
02:15:21,030 --> 02:15:19,199
the nsa was that the nsa no no no

3300
02:15:22,550 --> 02:15:21,040
somebody's sending me a text they're

3301
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:22,560
they're listening to me and i'm getting

3302
02:15:25,030 --> 02:15:23,679
texts

3303
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,040
okay they're listening to us and i'm

3304
02:15:27,430 --> 02:15:27,119
getting texts anyway i'm sorry about

3305
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:27,440
that

3306
02:15:34,229 --> 02:15:31,119
so and what do i know

3307
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:34,239
i know the first time chris

3308
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:37,520
and lou elizondo interacted i know that

3309
02:15:42,069 --> 02:15:38,800
jim semivan

3310
02:15:43,430 --> 02:15:42,079
and tom delong sat at a table in chris

3311
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:43,440
bledsoe's yard

3312
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:45,360
and had coffee with him because i've

3313
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:47,520
seen a picture and the metadata

3314
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:50,800
says 2015. okay so i'm just telling you

3315
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:53,599
these guys i bet so what else do i know

3316
02:15:57,990 --> 02:15:55,440
if lou elizondo

3317
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:58,000
is interacting with chris bledsoe and

3318
02:16:02,790 --> 02:15:59,280
it's before

3319
02:16:03,350 --> 02:16:02,800
october of 2017 he was still with the

3320
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:03,360
government

3321
02:16:09,430 --> 02:16:06,400
because that's when he resigned

3322
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:09,440
okay i'm just telling you a lot of stuff

3323
02:16:12,790 --> 02:16:11,840
there's lots of clues you can put

3324
02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:12,800
together stuff

3325
02:16:17,109 --> 02:16:15,599
that excludes a bunch of crap and you

3326
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:17,119
show you you get it down to

3327
02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:19,840
where the government was involved with

3328
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:21,119
with chris

3329
02:16:26,550 --> 02:16:24,239
we don't know why we have these hints we

3330
02:16:29,270 --> 02:16:26,560
don't know exactly what was going on

3331
02:16:30,550 --> 02:16:29,280
and then he has a lot of stuff that he

3332
02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:30,560
hasn't told

3333
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:32,639
he has lots of stuff that he has not

3334
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:34,559
told and i hope he's

3335
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,000
hope he can tell soon i can't wait till

3336
02:16:42,629 --> 02:16:39,599
the next time he's on the show

3337
02:16:46,070 --> 02:16:42,639
but let me let me back up

3338
02:16:49,349 --> 02:16:46,080
i'm sure you listen to tom delong's

3339
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:49,359
uh interview with me right you've heard

3340
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:50,080
it right

3341
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:53,359
yeah um there were lots of

3342
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:56,559
little snippets in in that interview

3343
02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:58,240
if you go and pick it apart where you

3344
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:00,000
can go aha

3345
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:03,120
all right you've got to uh

3346
02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:06,479
listen really closely but there was one

3347
02:17:11,750 --> 02:17:08,319
thing this goes back to exactly what

3348
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:11,760
you're talking about right here

3349
02:17:19,509 --> 02:17:15,120
tom said that

3350
02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:19,519
there was a religious component

3351
02:17:24,870 --> 02:17:23,120
to ufos and contact that we had to be

3352
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:24,880
careful of

3353
02:17:28,309 --> 02:17:26,800
you know be careful what you wish for

3354
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:28,319
you're out there you're calling these

3355
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:28,639
crap

3356
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:31,760
you don't know what you're doing and

3357
02:17:35,589 --> 02:17:34,080
you know i'm paraphrasing here for tom

3358
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:35,599
but you could be calling in

3359
02:17:42,309 --> 02:17:38,719
a demonic craft you know for instance

3360
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:42,319
and he had said that there are those

3361
02:17:47,270 --> 02:17:46,000
in washington dc in the pentagon and in

3362
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:47,280
agencies

3363
02:17:52,389 --> 02:17:50,479
that are aware of this fact and it

3364
02:17:55,509 --> 02:17:52,399
scares the crap out of them

3365
02:17:57,589 --> 02:17:55,519
and they have religious beliefs and and

3366
02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:57,599
a fundamental upbringing

3367
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:00,639
and uh you know they're christians

3368
02:18:07,190 --> 02:18:04,319
and this part of ufology scares them

3369
02:18:08,230 --> 02:18:07,200
and they know this this goes back to

3370
02:18:09,910 --> 02:18:08,240
chris

3371
02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:09,920
and the interaction with everybody was

3372
02:18:13,509 --> 02:18:11,599
talking to ryan about this last night on

3373
02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:13,519
the show i'm sure you were listening

3374
02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:15,519
i'm sorry i was unable to listen okay

3375
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:17,760
okay well this this aspect of it the

3376
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:18,960
religious side of

3377
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:22,319
e.t and and ufo contact is

3378
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:25,280
is something that we need to address

3379
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:26,559
directly

3380
02:18:33,030 --> 02:18:29,920
and if lou elizondo is

3381
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:33,040
at chris bledsoe's house in 2015

3382
02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:35,120
well you know that this is what chris is

3383
02:18:44,150 --> 02:18:36,080
talking about

3384
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:44,160
his his information that he has

3385
02:18:48,549 --> 02:18:46,240
collected and what he feels

3386
02:18:49,669 --> 02:18:48,559
i i hope one day that jim semivan and

3387
02:18:53,030 --> 02:18:49,679
chris

3388
02:18:56,150 --> 02:18:53,040
can sit down and talk openly about

3389
02:18:58,549 --> 02:18:56,160
their interactions about the white lady

3390
02:18:59,429 --> 02:18:58,559
because i believe it's the principal

3391
02:19:02,309 --> 02:18:59,439
reason

3392
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:02,319
simi van got in contact with him now

3393
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:04,559
it's their story to tell and not mine

3394
02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:07,120
but i can tell you it was a huge deal in

3395
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:08,000
semi-van

3396
02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:09,760
coming and talking to chris and he's

3397
02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:12,880
given him constant advice

3398
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:15,760
about how to do these interactions he's

3399
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:16,719
told him

3400
02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:19,040
if you get these weird orbs and they're

3401
02:19:24,230 --> 02:19:21,599
this color don't get too close to them

3402
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:24,240
because you'll be harmed they know a lot

3403
02:19:29,589 --> 02:19:25,920
of stuff

3404
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:29,599
like we

3405
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:32,880
it's i don't i don't i'm not certain

3406
02:19:37,830 --> 02:19:34,479
chris has served well

3407
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:37,840
by not having complete information uh

3408
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:40,240
i think he's probably been harmed by

3409
02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:41,920
actinic and other kinds

3410
02:19:46,709 --> 02:19:43,840
of radiation that are coming from these

3411
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:46,719
things and the government knows about it

3412
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:49,920
now um okay

3413
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:52,880
i'm gonna ask you directly we have the

3414
02:19:58,070 --> 02:19:54,160
tic tac

3415
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:58,080
say let's let's go with that and the

3416
02:20:02,790 --> 02:19:58,560
evidence

3417
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:02,800
okay so we have that and the perceived

3418
02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:06,160
threat on these battle groups okay

3419
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:09,920
all right yep yep and and then we have

3420
02:20:17,030 --> 02:20:13,359
chris and his interaction which you

3421
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:17,040
are uh a you're part of the family

3422
02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:21,359
right okay so is

3423
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:24,399
the interaction with the tic tac the

3424
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:25,120
same

3425
02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:31,600
intelligence as chris bledsoe

3426
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:33,280
i see no evidence to make that

3427
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:35,680
conclusion so we're talking about

3428
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:38,880
two different extraterrestrial

3429
02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:39,760
intelligences

3430
02:20:42,309 --> 02:20:41,520
we're talking about two different things

3431
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:42,319
i don't know that they're

3432
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:44,080
extraterrestrial i literally don't

3433
02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:46,720
know but i can tell you they are two

3434
02:20:49,349 --> 02:20:48,080
different things they present

3435
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:49,359
differently

3436
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:52,640
and do you think that that is

3437
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:56,000
what uh you know tyler

3438
02:20:59,190 --> 02:20:58,080
everybody else that was showing up out

3439
02:21:02,550 --> 02:20:59,200
at uh uh

3440
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:02,560
jim semivan is is in play he's cia

3441
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:05,760
for sure um uh

3442
02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:08,720
and uh for those showing up at chris's

3443
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:09,520
place

3444
02:21:16,950 --> 02:21:13,520
that they know about both incidents

3445
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:16,960
right when they're there right am i am i

3446
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:18,399
reading this the wrong way

3447
02:21:21,750 --> 02:21:20,560
no no no i mean especially elizondo

3448
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:21,760
since he was atip

3449
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:25,680
right right and so they're talking about

3450
02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:26,720
two different

3451
02:21:30,630 --> 02:21:29,120
situations right i don't know that

3452
02:21:32,790 --> 02:21:30,640
that's been conveyed

3453
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:32,800
i'm just telling you the description

3454
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:34,000
given to us

3455
02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:36,640
by the air crews and the crew you know

3456
02:21:40,230 --> 02:21:37,920
i've talked to kevin day

3457
02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:40,240
and i've talked to others and it's

3458
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:41,520
they're just different

3459
02:21:48,070 --> 02:21:45,040
they're very different chris sees orbs

3460
02:21:51,429 --> 02:21:48,080
and that sometimes do odd things

3461
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:51,439
and communicate with him in a weird way

3462
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:53,680
none of which i've seen but he reports

3463
02:21:56,710 --> 02:21:54,640
it regularly and

3464
02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:56,720
others seem to think he's telling the

3465
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:57,840
truth

3466
02:22:02,230 --> 02:22:00,479
and and on the other hand i've had weird

3467
02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:02,240
things happen in his presence

3468
02:22:05,670 --> 02:22:04,640
that i saw with my own eyes now i didn't

3469
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:05,680
see the lady

3470
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:08,479
i didn't hear voices in my head or have

3471
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:09,840
messages given to me

3472
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:11,280
or any of that kind of stuff i'm just

3473
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:13,520
telling you these things are very

3474
02:22:16,550 --> 02:22:14,080
different

3475
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:16,560
than a tic tac flying over the other

3476
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:18,000
thing is

3477
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:21,040
the thing that just scares the absolute

3478
02:22:27,670 --> 02:22:24,800
crap out of the navy is extremely clear

3479
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:27,680
if you're aware of how all this works

3480
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:28,720
fravor

3481
02:22:37,110 --> 02:22:36,640
and he decided to return to the battle

3482
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:37,120
group

3483
02:22:43,510 --> 02:22:40,240
having lost contact he was given

3484
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:43,520
the place to go and assemble in a

3485
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:46,080
parking place before he goes and lands

3486
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:47,439
on the ship

3487
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:50,160
and he's headed that way and the

3488
02:22:55,349 --> 02:22:52,560
princeton called him and said

3489
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:55,359
you're not going to believe this they

3490
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:56,160
are at your

3491
02:23:02,469 --> 02:22:59,600
cap point that got sent to fravor

3492
02:23:04,389 --> 02:23:02,479
and his wingman by encrypted

3493
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:04,399
communications channel

3494
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:07,520
and they had broken it to them

3495
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,479
with that and evading and blocking and

3496
02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:13,200
reflecting and manipulating their radar

3497
02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:16,840
those two things to the navy are acts of

3498
02:23:22,150 --> 02:23:18,080
war

3499
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:22,160
with uh with fravor's testimony

3500
02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:27,120
versus the video evidence

3501
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:30,160
are we talking about the same thing it

3502
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,760
looks to me like they're identical

3503
02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:33,520
because they happen to the same

3504
02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:35,439
group of people that happen to the black

3505
02:23:39,830 --> 02:23:37,120
aces on the nimitz

3506
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:39,840
uh sorry the the things that that got

3507
02:23:42,550 --> 02:23:40,560
shown

3508
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:42,560
in that one infrared video right

3509
02:23:45,670 --> 02:23:43,680
happened with the nimitz

3510
02:23:47,110 --> 02:23:45,680
some of the other things are different

3511
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:47,120
right the the the go

3512
02:23:50,469 --> 02:23:50,160
fast and the the one the gimbal those

3513
02:23:53,270 --> 02:23:50,479
are

3514
02:23:53,830 --> 02:23:53,280
i think with the teddy roosevelt in 2014

3515
02:23:56,870 --> 02:23:53,840
off the

3516
02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:56,880
that's correct um

3517
02:24:02,710 --> 02:24:00,000
but what i'm referring to is

3518
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:02,720
in the tic tac video and especially when

3519
02:24:07,830 --> 02:24:04,720
the tic tac goes to the left

3520
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:07,840
yeah um in in hypersonic

3521
02:24:12,830 --> 02:24:10,880
ah it wasn't hypersonic but that's a

3522
02:24:16,309 --> 02:24:12,840
whole nother debate

3523
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,319
um if you didn't have

3524
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:19,359
fravor's testimony right

3525
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:22,000
you didn't no fravor and you're looking

3526
02:24:25,670 --> 02:24:24,000
at that tic tac video

3527
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:25,680
do you i wasn't saying much of it you

3528
02:24:30,550 --> 02:24:27,359
wouldn't think anything of it would you

3529
02:24:33,670 --> 02:24:30,560
no i would think it was cgi it it

3530
02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:33,680
was because there was no look look

3531
02:24:37,750 --> 02:24:35,600
if you want to ask me that there's some

3532
02:24:39,110 --> 02:24:37,760
unknown intelligence operating or craft

3533
02:24:42,550 --> 02:24:39,120
in front of the navy

3534
02:24:44,230 --> 02:24:42,560
and the actual people that gathered the

3535
02:24:45,990 --> 02:24:44,240
evidence aren't allowed to say look

3536
02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:46,000
we tried to track this thing we tried to

3537
02:24:48,950 --> 02:24:48,160
run it down and every time we got close

3538
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:48,960
it would move off

3539
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:50,800
and then zip it would be gone at

3540
02:24:55,270 --> 02:24:53,439
hypersonic speeds to the horizon

3541
02:24:56,550 --> 02:24:55,280
uh you wouldn't believe it was anything

3542
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:56,560
else they never

3543
02:25:04,710 --> 02:24:59,760
tracked it going hypersonic speeds

3544
02:25:07,750 --> 02:25:04,720
yeah and it's it's it's strange for me

3545
02:25:08,309 --> 02:25:07,760
that i hear fra and i believe fravor i

3546
02:25:12,070 --> 02:25:08,319
do

3547
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:12,080
he saw something us theirs whatever

3548
02:25:15,510 --> 02:25:14,160
he saw something extraordinary no

3549
02:25:19,429 --> 02:25:15,520
question about it

3550
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:19,439
um but what's in that video

3551
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:22,640
is not what he is describing

3552
02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:26,240
not to me i i don't see it right

3553
02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:27,680
we definitely don't we definitely don't

3554
02:25:32,710 --> 02:25:29,920
see the thing flinting around

3555
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:32,720
doing non-ballistic motion instantaneous

3556
02:25:36,309 --> 02:25:33,920
acceleration

3557
02:25:37,190 --> 02:25:36,319
a few feet above the water after having

3558
02:25:39,190 --> 02:25:37,200
dropped 80

3559
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,200
000 feet to the surface of the water in

3560
02:25:43,110 --> 02:25:40,560
30 seconds we saw

3561
02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:43,120
none of that do you think we're gonna

3562
02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:44,720
head towards a break and then bob you're

3563
02:25:48,790 --> 02:25:46,720
gonna be doing overtime with us so

3564
02:25:50,469 --> 02:25:48,800
if you think you're going to bed or

3565
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:50,479
you're gonna go watch fox news

3566
02:25:53,750 --> 02:25:53,359
that ain't that ain't happening okay um

3567
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:53,760
is

3568
02:26:07,830 --> 02:26:04,550
that our military

3569
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:07,840
was just test subjects

3570
02:26:11,349 --> 02:26:10,640
of our own technology northrop grumman

3571
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:11,359
or whatever

3572
02:26:18,630 --> 02:26:14,960
the the people involved

3573
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:18,640
giving us testimony are concluding

3574
02:26:24,710 --> 02:26:21,680
melon and others say those things were

3575
02:26:27,830 --> 02:26:24,720
unknown and they were in charge of

3576
02:26:31,190 --> 02:26:27,840
intelligence in the pentagon okay

3577
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:31,200
this that's number one number two you do

3578
02:26:35,349 --> 02:26:31,600
not

3579
02:26:36,230 --> 02:26:35,359
fly in a battle group that has loaded

3580
02:26:38,630 --> 02:26:36,240
for bear

3581
02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:38,640
and don't tell them you're there they

3582
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:40,000
may decide

3583
02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:42,080
we think you're we think you're a threat

3584
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:44,800
we're going to shoot you down

3585
02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:46,960
i mean it just doesn't make any sense

3586
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:48,000
yeah they did didn't

3587
02:26:52,389 --> 02:26:51,280
they uh didn't they communicate to

3588
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:52,399
fravor and his

3589
02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:57,590
do you have armed missiles right or

3590
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:58,800
something like that

3591
02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:00,960
are you guys are you guys good to go

3592
02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:02,880
right they did yeah

3593
02:27:05,990 --> 02:27:05,120
they said what what are you how how are

3594
02:27:09,190 --> 02:27:06,000
you loaded out

3595
02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:09,200
no where there where

3596
02:27:12,230 --> 02:27:11,280
they were they're bingo weapons they had

3597
02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:12,240
none

3598
02:27:16,550 --> 02:27:14,240
oh that's right that was the response

3599
02:27:20,150 --> 02:27:16,560
but they did ask him if he was

3600
02:27:22,150 --> 02:27:20,160
able to shoot something down

3601
02:27:23,429 --> 02:27:22,160
i think they asked what ordinance he had

3602
02:27:25,670 --> 02:27:23,439
on board and he said none

3603
02:27:26,469 --> 02:27:25,680
right right right dummies yeah dummies

3604
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:26,479
you're right right

3605
02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:28,960
right all right we need to take a break

3606
02:27:31,429 --> 02:27:30,720
right here we're going to continue all

3607
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:31,439
of this in

3608
02:27:35,429 --> 02:27:34,160
in just a minute um when we come back i

3609
02:27:38,710 --> 02:27:35,439
want to talk about ryan

3610
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:38,720
and chris uh specifically um

3611
02:27:43,590 --> 02:27:42,000
ryan last night uh i think it's one of

3612
02:27:45,190 --> 02:27:43,600
the most extraordinary shows i've ever

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done on fade to black and i've done

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uh 1400 shows so that's that says a lot

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right um and ryan

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i pushed him but he said some things

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last night that

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myself in the audience had never heard

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you know for the first time

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and i want to thank him for his honesty

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and his openness

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but he's hiding something right he is

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he is he's holding back and he's doing

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everything that he can

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uh and he fought me last night and i'm

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gonna give him credit

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uh he he stood his ground

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but but ryan and chris they know things

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don't they

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02:28:34,870 --> 02:28:33,439
yes i want them to tell

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02:28:36,630 --> 02:28:34,880
let's take our break right here i'm

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going to leave it right there there's

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02:28:40,630 --> 02:28:38,399
so much to cover tonight we're going to

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go into overtime with bob mcguire

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very important day for the united states

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and what is going down right now in the

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state of georgia

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and uh if something resolves concretely

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before the end of the show

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i'll say a little something some other

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than that i'm your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black our guest bob

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mcguire i'll be back with overtime right

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[Music]

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02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:01,680
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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02:34:10,550 --> 02:34:08,630
an amazing way to kick off 2021 last

3752
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:10,560
night uh ryan bledsoe was here tonight

3753
02:34:14,389 --> 02:34:12,319
bob mcguire tomorrow night

3754
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:14,399
isaac arthur is here we'll be talking

3755
02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:16,000
physics and science all night thursday

3756
02:34:20,070 --> 02:34:18,160
night's another fader night uh with open

3757
02:34:20,710 --> 02:34:20,080
lines all night long tonight bob mcguire

3758
02:34:24,230 --> 02:34:20,720
we are now

3759
02:34:26,230 --> 02:34:24,240
into overtime and uh and i've talked my

3760
02:34:30,870 --> 02:34:26,240
butt off today i'm gonna hit this water

3761
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:30,880
really quick um

3762
02:34:37,750 --> 02:34:34,240
i'm out of coffee but the water

3763
02:34:41,270 --> 02:34:37,760
the water is dark so

3764
02:34:43,830 --> 02:34:41,280
there you go all right uh bob um uh

3765
02:34:46,309 --> 02:34:43,840
overtime is where i'd like to uh open

3766
02:34:50,150 --> 02:34:46,319
things up and and have a little more fun

3767
02:34:53,590 --> 02:34:50,160
but um i want to ask you this

3768
02:34:56,630 --> 02:34:53,600
what made you approach

3769
02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:56,640
chris bledsoe and his family okay so

3770
02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:00,160
that's really straightforward 2017 came

3771
02:35:03,510 --> 02:35:02,560
all the all the crap hit the fan with

3772
02:35:06,230 --> 02:35:03,520
ttsa

3773
02:35:07,190 --> 02:35:06,240
and i became curious so i began to look

3774
02:35:10,389 --> 02:35:07,200
around

3775
02:35:14,070 --> 02:35:10,399
and i didn't see much that attracted me

3776
02:35:16,070 --> 02:35:14,080
in ufology except for richard dolan

3777
02:35:18,070 --> 02:35:16,080
because of his seriousness and his

3778
02:35:21,270 --> 02:35:18,080
writing ability and so forth so

3779
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:21,280
i joined richard dolan members he joined

3780
02:35:24,550 --> 02:35:21,680
he

3781
02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:24,560
formed richard dolan for him i fairly

3782
02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:26,000
quickly became

3783
02:35:29,990 --> 02:35:28,800
a fairly prominent member of the richard

3784
02:35:32,150 --> 02:35:30,000
dolan forum

3785
02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:32,160
and this was before i was the moderator

3786
02:35:36,309 --> 02:35:33,120
and the admin

3787
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:36,319
okay so he interviewed chris

3788
02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:40,000
in four interviews uh which took an hour

3789
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:42,160
and a half each they were in-depth

3790
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:43,600
detailed interviews

3791
02:35:48,790 --> 02:35:46,960
really well done and to that date

3792
02:35:50,950 --> 02:35:48,800
to that date they were the best

3793
02:35:54,070 --> 02:35:50,960
interviews i'd ever heard with chris

3794
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,080
and i learned the names

3795
02:36:01,030 --> 02:35:57,359
of lots of people in government

3796
02:36:04,389 --> 02:36:01,040
that i knew of or i knew

3797
02:36:06,469 --> 02:36:04,399
that were interacting with chris so i

3798
02:36:08,950 --> 02:36:06,479
wrote him

3799
02:36:09,910 --> 02:36:08,960
on facebook i think it was and said

3800
02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:09,920
chris look

3801
02:36:15,830 --> 02:36:13,359
i'm a scientist of virginia tech

3802
02:36:16,710 --> 02:36:15,840
i've become interested in all of this

3803
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:16,720
and

3804
02:36:19,910 --> 02:36:19,120
with the with the ttsa coming out in the

3805
02:36:23,830 --> 02:36:19,920
open

3806
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:23,840
and uh i'd like to come and visit

3807
02:36:30,710 --> 02:36:27,680
uh and uh he didn't respond for

3808
02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:30,720
two and a half or three weeks and

3809
02:36:34,150 --> 02:36:32,560
he's after two and a half or three weeks

3810
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:34,160
he said yes

3811
02:36:38,150 --> 02:36:37,600
you can come and uh i says would look

3812
02:36:40,150 --> 02:36:38,160
i'd

3813
02:36:41,910 --> 02:36:40,160
like to bring my wife and my wife and i

3814
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:41,920
will come over and stay

3815
02:36:47,830 --> 02:36:45,280
uh in a hotel for for

3816
02:36:48,790 --> 02:36:47,840
for a little bit and visit with you and

3817
02:36:50,630 --> 02:36:48,800
get to know you

3818
02:36:51,830 --> 02:36:50,640
and so you can see that we're human

3819
02:36:53,750 --> 02:36:51,840
beings and

3820
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:53,760
i'm a scientist and i'm interested in

3821
02:36:57,429 --> 02:36:55,200
doing

3822
02:36:59,270 --> 02:36:57,439
observational science at your place so i

3823
02:36:59,910 --> 02:36:59,280
got over there we did a lot of talking

3824
02:37:02,070 --> 02:36:59,920
especially

3825
02:37:04,070 --> 02:37:02,080
the first two days when it was rainy and

3826
02:37:04,790 --> 02:37:04,080
he told me that jim semivam was the one

3827
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:04,800
that told him

3828
02:37:11,510 --> 02:37:08,319
told me told him to allow me in

3829
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:11,520
and that this would be interesting so

3830
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:13,760
i began investigating and i decided that

3831
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:15,439
i would try to do some observational

3832
02:37:19,670 --> 02:37:16,160
science

3833
02:37:20,870 --> 02:37:19,680
especially after i saw the things flying

3834
02:37:23,510 --> 02:37:20,880
over our head and

3835
02:37:25,830 --> 02:37:23,520
the popping flash bulbs going off in the

3836
02:37:26,630 --> 02:37:25,840
sky and the purple auras floating over

3837
02:37:29,510 --> 02:37:26,640
the trees

3838
02:37:30,550 --> 02:37:29,520
i went okay there's something to this

3839
02:37:33,910 --> 02:37:30,560
guy

3840
02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:33,920
uh and we just interacted and i saw

3841
02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:36,080
stuff and decided that i would try to do

3842
02:37:39,510 --> 02:37:36,720
something

3843
02:37:41,110 --> 02:37:39,520
that would help all people who had these

3844
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:41,120
kinds of experiences

3845
02:37:44,950 --> 02:37:43,760
collect data that anyone would believe

3846
02:37:48,790 --> 02:37:44,960
had you seen

3847
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:48,800
a ufo up to that point okay so

3848
02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:52,399
the answer is when i was young i built a

3849
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:53,760
telescope

3850
02:38:01,110 --> 02:37:57,280
stayed out in the yard a lot at night

3851
02:38:04,950 --> 02:38:01,120
and when all this began to occur

3852
02:38:08,550 --> 02:38:04,960
these childhood memories began to return

3853
02:38:12,230 --> 02:38:08,560
and so i saw stuff in my yard

3854
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:12,240
and i regularly had

3855
02:38:18,790 --> 02:38:15,600
what my mother now calls missing time

3856
02:38:20,469 --> 02:38:18,800
and the reason i say that is she would

3857
02:38:22,309 --> 02:38:20,479
get up at two or three o'clock in the

3858
02:38:23,830 --> 02:38:22,319
morning come out in the yard and say

3859
02:38:25,270 --> 02:38:23,840
what are you still doing out here

3860
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:25,280
looking through the telescope

3861
02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:27,280
and i would tell her you're wrong i only

3862
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:28,720
been here for 30 minutes

3863
02:38:32,150 --> 02:38:30,240
and it would be two to two and a half

3864
02:38:35,429 --> 02:38:32,160
hours so

3865
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:35,439
the last missing time incident happened

3866
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:37,760
when i was 19 years old

3867
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:40,240
i picked up my girlfriend from

3868
02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:41,439
university

3869
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:44,080
and we headed to headed out to take the

3870
02:38:49,990 --> 02:38:46,240
two to two and a half hour drive home

3871
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:50,000
on a friday night and

3872
02:38:55,349 --> 02:38:52,880
we lost an hour to an hour and a half

3873
02:38:59,270 --> 02:38:55,359
we've wound up in the middle of nowhere

3874
02:39:02,710 --> 02:38:59,280
at a crossroads no idea where we were

3875
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:02,720
no idea how we had gotten there and

3876
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:05,840
it was just so weird and then we just

3877
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:07,520
figured out where we were by driving

3878
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:09,359
three or four miles went home

3879
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:11,600
a pro said we got lost sorry for being

3880
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:13,600
late and then we

3881
02:39:16,950 --> 02:39:16,080
we just forgot about it but within two

3882
02:39:19,910 --> 02:39:16,960
weeks

3883
02:39:21,110 --> 02:39:19,920
i had change i changed everything about

3884
02:39:23,429 --> 02:39:21,120
my life

3885
02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:23,439
i left the university i was attending

3886
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:25,439
went to a different school

3887
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:27,200
changed over to engineering and

3888
02:39:32,469 --> 02:39:29,120
mathematics and physics

3889
02:39:34,389 --> 02:39:32,479
and totally changed my life shortly

3890
02:39:36,630 --> 02:39:34,399
after that missing time

3891
02:39:37,670 --> 02:39:36,640
i have no memory of what happened in the

3892
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:37,680
missing time

3893
02:39:41,270 --> 02:39:39,120
i'm just telling you my whole life

3894
02:39:44,630 --> 02:39:41,280
changed after it and so

3895
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:44,640
i haven't done regression

3896
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:47,280
i i've signed these pieces of paper that

3897
02:39:51,910 --> 02:39:49,600
says i will never allow that to happen

3898
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:51,920
unless i have a cleared hypnotist and

3899
02:39:55,110 --> 02:39:53,439
nobody's going to give me a cleared

3900
02:39:56,550 --> 02:39:55,120
hypnotist

3901
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:56,560
so i'm just telling you how it all

3902
02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:58,479
happened and

3903
02:40:02,070 --> 02:40:01,120
now you're seeing things at bledsoe's

3904
02:40:06,309 --> 02:40:02,080
house so from the

3905
02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:06,319
from that age until chris i don't have

3906
02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:06,560
any

3907
02:40:13,429 --> 02:40:11,680
so what what's going through your mind

3908
02:40:15,429 --> 02:40:13,439
at chris's place

3909
02:40:17,590 --> 02:40:15,439
you know it's like it's like the end of

3910
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:17,600
i'm sure i'm sure you can imagine

3911
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:20,560
i'm going wtf over as i'm seeing this

3912
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:21,040
stuff

3913
02:40:28,230 --> 02:40:24,240
right right right and you're a scientist

3914
02:40:31,429 --> 02:40:28,240
so did any of this

3915
02:40:32,230 --> 02:40:31,439
look physical okay you're a physical oh

3916
02:40:35,830 --> 02:40:32,240
yeah

3917
02:40:39,150 --> 02:40:35,840
well what i mean by that is you have uh

3918
02:40:40,950 --> 02:40:39,160
lights you have imaging you have

3919
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:40,960
electromagnetic things that could be

3920
02:40:45,190 --> 02:40:42,880
happening and then you have

3921
02:40:47,750 --> 02:40:45,200
you know metallic nuts and bolts craft

3922
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:47,760
type of situation i did not see a flying

3923
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:49,120
saucer at chris's

3924
02:40:55,670 --> 02:40:53,040
right now john alexander did

3925
02:40:56,389 --> 02:40:55,680
other people have seen flying saucers

3926
02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:56,399
with chris

3927
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:00,000
i have not what i saw was

3928
02:41:06,230 --> 02:41:04,319
the gigantic very bright

3929
02:41:08,150 --> 02:41:06,240
whatever they are i'm going to call them

3930
02:41:11,910 --> 02:41:08,160
an ore but they were big

3931
02:41:14,309 --> 02:41:11,920
and they just popped open and i went oh

3932
02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:14,319
if i had an electromagnetic sensing

3933
02:41:17,349 --> 02:41:15,120
device

3934
02:41:19,269 --> 02:41:17,359
and that popped out like that i would

3935
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:19,279
get a pulse that i could record

3936
02:41:24,550 --> 02:41:21,760
as a signal and then we saw these little

3937
02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:24,560
flash bulbs popping in the trees

3938
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:27,120
and this was this really weirded me out

3939
02:41:30,150 --> 02:41:28,560
i don't mind telling you so

3940
02:41:32,710 --> 02:41:30,160
i saw these flash going on from the

3941
02:41:34,230 --> 02:41:32,720
trees and it was january

3942
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:34,240
and it was too cold for it to be

3943
02:41:38,389 --> 02:41:36,880
lightning bugs so i went you know things

3944
02:41:39,910 --> 02:41:38,399
look like lightning bolts popping into

3945
02:41:40,790 --> 02:41:39,920
the tree says oh yeah that happens all

3946
02:41:42,950 --> 02:41:40,800
the time

3947
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:42,960
he says sometimes they pop like that and

3948
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:44,000
then they turn into

3949
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:47,359
a 40 meter 40 foot wide orb

3950
02:41:51,190 --> 02:41:50,240
i went really and then i set inside my

3951
02:41:52,950 --> 02:41:51,200
head

3952
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:52,960
i really wish they'd move out of the

3953
02:41:57,190 --> 02:41:54,960
trees so i could see them

3954
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:57,200
they went right up into the air started

3955
02:42:01,750 --> 02:41:58,640
popping in the air

3956
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:01,760
as if they had read my mind now

3957
02:42:08,309 --> 02:42:04,960
were you able to later

3958
02:42:11,110 --> 02:42:08,319
get some measuring equipment in

3959
02:42:11,429 --> 02:42:11,120
to see what was going on okay so that's

3960
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:11,439
an

3961
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:27,760
coveted

3962
02:42:31,190 --> 02:42:30,560
right and he has uh he has medical

3963
02:42:33,110 --> 02:42:31,200
issues

3964
02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:33,120
that he shouldn't be around people who

3965
02:42:38,710 --> 02:42:36,000
are sick and so forth and so

3966
02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:38,720
all of that stuff has gotten in the way

3967
02:42:40,950 --> 02:42:39,120
now

3968
02:42:42,550 --> 02:42:40,960
we're about to get vaccinated and i

3969
02:42:44,630 --> 02:42:42,560
think that i'll be able to go

3970
02:42:46,630 --> 02:42:44,640
and do some observational science

3971
02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:46,640
because i really want to

3972
02:42:50,710 --> 02:42:48,800
what do you think ultimately is is going

3973
02:42:54,070 --> 02:42:50,720
on uh when you see

3974
02:42:57,429 --> 02:42:54,080
as a scientist where you know what

3975
02:42:59,510 --> 02:42:57,439
waves are photons right and

3976
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:59,520
uh well i see these electromagnetic

3977
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:01,200
phenomena and i don't have a clue

3978
02:43:08,670 --> 02:43:04,319
i really want to gather data we

3979
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:08,680
um we when i say we it was a

3980
02:43:13,510 --> 02:43:11,840
150 of us bob you probably heard me tell

3981
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:13,520
the story before but

3982
02:43:20,309 --> 02:43:17,279
uh we're out one night and

3983
02:43:23,190 --> 02:43:20,319
uh this i don't have another way to

3984
02:43:26,230 --> 02:43:23,200
explain it other than

3985
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,240
it was an aqua marine

3986
02:43:30,389 --> 02:43:28,880
light in the sky and it was big right it

3987
02:43:32,630 --> 02:43:30,399
wasn't small it was big

3988
02:43:33,910 --> 02:43:32,640
and it took up a big chunk of the sky i

3989
02:43:38,950 --> 02:43:33,920
don't know how

3990
02:43:40,790 --> 02:43:38,960
it was but if i was gonna guess i'm

3991
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:40,800
gonna say a mile

3992
02:43:43,990 --> 02:43:43,359
you know not not up in the stars right

3993
02:43:47,110 --> 02:43:44,000
you know

3994
02:43:50,630 --> 02:43:47,120
uh just above us but it was green

3995
02:43:52,630 --> 02:43:50,640
and it like flickered and it made this

3996
02:43:55,429 --> 02:43:52,640
backwards z

3997
02:43:57,190 --> 02:43:55,439
in the sky and it lasted about you know

3998
02:43:59,429 --> 02:43:57,200
it went

3999
02:44:00,550 --> 02:43:59,439
that's how long it lasted so what is

4000
02:44:02,230 --> 02:44:00,560
that two seconds

4001
02:44:04,309 --> 02:44:02,240
second and a half two seconds

4002
02:44:07,510 --> 02:44:04,319
everybody's screaming

4003
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:07,520
we all saw it and as it trailed away it

4004
02:44:15,670 --> 02:44:12,950
um hit its high beams

4005
02:44:16,630 --> 02:44:15,680
right it like flashed a couple of times

4006
02:44:19,670 --> 02:44:16,640
saying goodbye

4007
02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:19,680
it was pretty trippy but

4008
02:44:25,429 --> 02:44:23,040
i don't know if that was physical

4009
02:44:26,550 --> 02:44:25,439
you know what i mean we saw it but i

4010
02:44:30,870 --> 02:44:26,560
don't know if it

4011
02:44:32,230 --> 02:44:30,880
it like it appeared and then disappeared

4012
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:32,240
do you understand what i'm saying and

4013
02:44:37,389 --> 02:44:35,040
yeah yeah so let me say this

4014
02:44:38,790 --> 02:44:37,399
as a person who understands physics and

4015
02:44:41,510 --> 02:44:38,800
electromagnetic

4016
02:44:42,150 --> 02:44:41,520
fields uh and how other things can

4017
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:42,160
produce

4018
02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:44,160
these photons from the electromagnetic

4019
02:44:49,750 --> 02:44:46,640
fields that's physical

4020
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:49,760
okay so something physically produced

4021
02:44:55,429 --> 02:44:52,960
those things that you observed

4022
02:44:56,870 --> 02:44:55,439
uh i don't know what they are i don't

4023
02:44:59,269 --> 02:44:56,880
even have a clue

4024
02:45:00,150 --> 02:44:59,279
and one of the reasons is so aggravated

4025
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,160
that we don't

4026
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:03,120
have enough data or a clue is it's all

4027
02:45:06,309 --> 02:45:04,319
been kept a secret

4028
02:45:07,670 --> 02:45:06,319
and any data that's ever been collected

4029
02:45:10,469 --> 02:45:07,680
has been hidden

4030
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:10,479
so i was just determined as all the

4031
02:45:14,710 --> 02:45:11,920
other members in skyhub

4032
02:45:15,910 --> 02:45:14,720
to get data that anybody can look at

4033
02:45:19,670 --> 02:45:15,920
well and and this

4034
02:45:24,070 --> 02:45:19,680
is uh you bring up such a great point

4035
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:24,080
um when we talk about those types of

4036
02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:28,240
uh particles those are particles

4037
02:45:31,349 --> 02:45:30,640
uh especially when we're talking about

4038
02:45:34,469 --> 02:45:31,359
light without

4039
02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:34,479
mass right there's no

4040
02:45:40,309 --> 02:45:37,520
mass there e equals m c squared gets

4041
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:40,319
really complicated when we're talking

4042
02:45:43,750 --> 02:45:40,880
about

4043
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:43,760
light because then it's moving there's

4044
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:45,040
got to be energy

4045
02:45:51,590 --> 02:45:48,640
e equals m c squared but there's no mass

4046
02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:51,600
so there's no but but they do transfer

4047
02:45:55,670 --> 02:45:52,399
momentum

4048
02:45:57,110 --> 02:45:55,680
when they interact so they like a pink

4049
02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:57,120
like a billiard ball

4050
02:46:04,469 --> 02:46:01,040
if a photon hits you and your body or

4051
02:46:07,670 --> 02:46:04,479
cell or whatever absorbs the photon

4052
02:46:10,710 --> 02:46:07,680
it transfers momentum to you so

4053
02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:10,720
it it acts as if it had mass

4054
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:13,680
and the the the momentum which is the

4055
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:14,240
energy

4056
02:46:18,389 --> 02:46:16,399
equals the planck constant times the

4057
02:46:20,389 --> 02:46:18,399
frequency of light it's emitting

4058
02:46:22,309 --> 02:46:20,399
that's how that a planck times the law

4059
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:22,319
of frequency is the energy

4060
02:46:25,990 --> 02:46:24,960
and from that we get the equivalent mass

4061
02:46:28,950 --> 02:46:26,000
by e over c

4062
02:46:29,349 --> 02:46:28,960
squared is m okay so we can get kind of

4063
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:29,359
a

4064
02:46:46,550 --> 02:46:42,479
effect infinite energy

4065
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:46,560
infinite energy and so uh but

4066
02:46:54,870 --> 02:46:50,720
this energy had shape

4067
02:46:57,830 --> 02:46:54,880
right so the light is stopping

4068
02:46:58,550 --> 02:46:57,840
to create the shape that's the part that

4069
02:47:06,150 --> 02:46:58,560
i i

4070
02:47:06,950 --> 02:47:06,160
what is what is uh this this phenomenon

4071
02:47:10,710 --> 02:47:06,960
is

4072
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:10,720
you don't have any

4073
02:47:13,990 --> 02:47:13,600
kind of data or recording or anything

4074
02:47:15,670 --> 02:47:14,000
else

4075
02:47:17,510 --> 02:47:15,680
that you could go to all sorts of

4076
02:47:18,230 --> 02:47:17,520
experts and have them bring their

4077
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:18,240
opinions

4078
02:47:22,070 --> 02:47:20,800
over what you got it pisses me off i

4079
02:47:24,070 --> 02:47:22,080
should piss you off too

4080
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:24,080
well and you know this is the thing this

4081
02:47:28,630 --> 02:47:26,080
is why i talk yes you're right

4082
02:47:30,469 --> 02:47:28,640
and this is why i talk about it so often

4083
02:47:31,349 --> 02:47:30,479
there's a hundred people there that saw

4084
02:47:34,710 --> 02:47:31,359
this

4085
02:47:36,150 --> 02:47:34,720
right they need me to speak about it

4086
02:47:36,550 --> 02:47:36,160
right now they're listening going i was

4087
02:47:39,269 --> 02:47:36,560
there

4088
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:39,279
it was crazy yeah you know they need me

4089
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:40,880
to talk about it

4090
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:44,720
right the phenomenon itself is real

4091
02:47:50,389 --> 02:47:47,760
your sky hub

4092
02:47:51,670 --> 02:47:50,399
box would it be able to pick up

4093
02:47:54,630 --> 02:47:51,680
something like

4094
02:47:55,590 --> 02:47:54,640
this yeah because you're gonna see it

4095
02:47:58,309 --> 02:47:55,600
moving

4096
02:47:59,110 --> 02:47:58,319
and so it's gonna say i see an object

4097
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:59,120
moving

4098
02:48:02,950 --> 02:48:01,120
so let me put a box around it and track

4099
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:02,960
it and

4100
02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:04,640
while i'm tracking i'm going to get this

4101
02:48:09,030 --> 02:48:06,560
video and i'm going to run the video

4102
02:48:09,670 --> 02:48:09,040
through the computer program and it's

4103
02:48:12,550 --> 02:48:09,680
going to say

4104
02:48:14,309 --> 02:48:12,560
that's not an airplane that's an unknown

4105
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:14,319
and then it'll go into the unknown bit

4106
02:48:18,389 --> 02:48:14,880
bucket

4107
02:48:21,190 --> 02:48:18,399
and other scientists can look at it

4108
02:48:22,309 --> 02:48:21,200
and all the other data that's collected

4109
02:48:24,790 --> 02:48:22,319
at the same time

4110
02:48:25,429 --> 02:48:24,800
and sent off to the cloud and all that

4111
02:48:27,910 --> 02:48:25,439
data

4112
02:48:30,389 --> 02:48:27,920
will be available for analysis now you

4113
02:48:32,150 --> 02:48:30,399
know all of these sky watches that go on

4114
02:48:35,590 --> 02:48:32,160
not only the ones that i'm a part of but

4115
02:48:39,429 --> 02:48:35,600
others uh that do this worldwide

4116
02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:39,439
now they have the ability to bring

4117
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:42,720
sky hub to the sky watches where

4118
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:45,359
some of these sky watches are it's

4119
02:48:49,190 --> 02:48:47,279
jumping off man you know it's close

4120
02:48:51,750 --> 02:48:49,200
encounters of the third kind

4121
02:48:53,030 --> 02:48:51,760
of things that are happening and so the

4122
02:48:56,070 --> 02:48:53,040
sky hub will be

4123
02:48:58,710 --> 02:48:56,080
able to document the events of the night

4124
02:48:59,030 --> 02:48:58,720
of these sky watches these ce5s yeah

4125
02:49:00,950 --> 02:48:59,040
yeah

4126
02:49:02,550 --> 02:49:00,960
because first of all you you're going to

4127
02:49:04,469 --> 02:49:02,560
start with a fish eye camera

4128
02:49:06,150 --> 02:49:04,479
and it's going to do all sky right

4129
02:49:08,389 --> 02:49:06,160
anything that looks weird

4130
02:49:09,429 --> 02:49:08,399
that moves in the sky it's going to

4131
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:09,439
record a video

4132
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:12,720
of it at fairly high resolution and

4133
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:15,439
if you go all in and once you see that

4134
02:49:21,349 --> 02:49:17,359
you get something you go all in

4135
02:49:24,469 --> 02:49:21,359
and you buy a fancy pan tilt zoom camera

4136
02:49:25,349 --> 02:49:24,479
later on after the control of that pan

4137
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:25,359
tilt zoom

4138
02:49:31,190 --> 02:49:28,720
is added to the software so that we can

4139
02:49:33,110 --> 02:49:31,200
we can tell you it's j you're justified

4140
02:49:34,070 --> 02:49:33,120
in spending that money on a pan tilt

4141
02:49:35,349 --> 02:49:34,080
zoom camera

4142
02:49:36,870 --> 02:49:35,359
then you're going to be able to zoom in

4143
02:49:37,510 --> 02:49:36,880
on it it's going to track it all across

4144
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:37,520
the sky

4145
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:39,359
with a telescope and making a high

4146
02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:40,640
resolution video

4147
02:49:44,150 --> 02:49:42,560
that hasn't been added yet but it will

4148
02:49:47,670 --> 02:49:44,160
be now uh so

4149
02:49:49,429 --> 02:49:47,680
okay um now you you mentioned eli musk

4150
02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:49,439
and and starlink

4151
02:49:55,510 --> 02:49:52,800
um one of the things

4152
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:55,520
as we're doing these sky watches is

4153
02:50:00,550 --> 02:49:57,120
trying to determine

4154
02:50:03,590 --> 02:50:00,560
what is a satellite and what is

4155
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:03,600
not now starlink okay i i can

4156
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:06,960
i can see that but what about that

4157
02:50:10,710 --> 02:50:09,760
okay so so that's that's an excellent

4158
02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:10,720
question jimmy

4159
02:50:14,950 --> 02:50:12,720
and let me give you as complete an

4160
02:50:17,910 --> 02:50:14,960
answer as a person can give

4161
02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:17,920
the north american defense organization

4162
02:50:23,670 --> 02:50:19,840
gives away

4163
02:50:27,110 --> 02:50:23,680
the parameters of the orbit of every

4164
02:50:29,830 --> 02:50:27,120
satellite in orbit except for the most

4165
02:50:30,710 --> 02:50:29,840
secret ones of the united states

4166
02:50:32,469 --> 02:50:30,720
government

4167
02:50:34,630 --> 02:50:32,479
uh they just don't publish those

4168
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:34,640
elements you're not going to get nro

4169
02:50:37,990 --> 02:50:36,960
information you're not going to get nro

4170
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:38,000
spacecraft right

4171
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:40,720
okay but everything else you'll be able

4172
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:42,399
to exclude and say

4173
02:50:48,830 --> 02:50:44,000
i don't care about that because that's

4174
02:50:55,190 --> 02:50:51,750
um

4175
02:50:57,030 --> 02:50:55,200
okay polar orbit satellites

4176
02:50:59,429 --> 02:50:57,040
okay this is this is the deal when i'm

4177
02:51:01,990 --> 02:50:59,439
out doing sky watches i know my east

4178
02:51:05,429 --> 02:51:02,000
west north south orientation

4179
02:51:07,030 --> 02:51:05,439
and you can tell when things are going

4180
02:51:09,670 --> 02:51:07,040
in one direction

4181
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:09,680
uh east to west and and and that makes a

4182
02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:11,200
lot of sense

4183
02:51:18,070 --> 02:51:14,960
when you are tracking something

4184
02:51:21,429 --> 02:51:18,080
that is going north to south

4185
02:51:24,710 --> 02:51:21,439
now we're in a more unique situation

4186
02:51:27,429 --> 02:51:24,720
in that polar orbit satellites are rare

4187
02:51:27,910 --> 02:51:27,439
one two it's a heavy technology and

4188
02:51:29,590 --> 02:51:27,920
three

4189
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:29,600
most and they're and they're mostly spy

4190
02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:31,680
satellites mostly spy satellites

4191
02:51:35,670 --> 02:51:33,840
so if you're seeing something going from

4192
02:51:39,269 --> 02:51:35,680
north to south

4193
02:51:39,910 --> 02:51:39,279
at a pretty low altitude as opposed to

4194
02:51:42,870 --> 02:51:39,920
you know uh

4195
02:51:44,389 --> 02:51:42,880
you know 200 000 feet or whatever out in

4196
02:51:46,870 --> 02:51:44,399
in some kind of

4197
02:51:48,469 --> 02:51:46,880
orbit that is maneuverable but if you're

4198
02:51:50,550 --> 02:51:48,479
looking at something low and it's going

4199
02:51:53,670 --> 02:51:50,560
north to south

4200
02:51:55,910 --> 02:51:53,680
generally speaking that isn't going to

4201
02:51:57,830 --> 02:51:55,920
be a traditional satellite

4202
02:51:59,510 --> 02:51:57,840
and that is going to be something that

4203
02:52:00,230 --> 02:51:59,520
you can start to get into unknown

4204
02:52:01,910 --> 02:52:00,240
territory

4205
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:01,920
oh yeah and you'll classify it as

4206
02:52:05,510 --> 02:52:03,520
unknown and record it

4207
02:52:07,110 --> 02:52:05,520
i've always found that part interesting

4208
02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:07,120
you know because when you're out doing

4209
02:52:10,550 --> 02:52:07,520
sky

4210
02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:10,560
watches and you're trying to determine

4211
02:52:18,469 --> 02:52:11,439
what is

4212
02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:18,479
i always go to directions i always think

4213
02:52:23,510 --> 02:52:20,160
about directions first if it's going

4214
02:52:28,150 --> 02:52:25,830
no no i'm i'm thinking it's it's

4215
02:52:31,269 --> 02:52:28,160
something that we really need to look at

4216
02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:31,279
will um skyhub do that kind of

4217
02:52:35,750 --> 02:52:33,920
determination

4218
02:52:37,269 --> 02:52:35,760
yes it's and it's going to try to

4219
02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:37,279
eliminate all

4220
02:52:42,790 --> 02:52:40,960
known objects if they if it's known

4221
02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:42,800
object list corresponds to that thing

4222
02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:43,600
you're seeing

4223
02:52:47,830 --> 02:52:46,240
so it will eliminate those things it

4224
02:52:50,150 --> 02:52:47,840
knows or satellites

4225
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:50,160
okay but if it doesn't know it's a

4226
02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:51,520
satellite

4227
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:53,680
they're going to be parts of its

4228
02:52:59,269 --> 02:52:55,120
algorithm

4229
02:53:00,630 --> 02:52:59,279
which you can say if it doesn't do any

4230
02:53:04,469 --> 02:53:00,640
weird zigzags

4231
02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:04,479
i don't care so if it if it just goes to

4232
02:53:08,070 --> 02:53:05,600
a polar orbit

4233
02:53:09,190 --> 02:53:08,080
right i who cares it's going to be a spy

4234
02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:09,200
satellite and

4235
02:53:12,550 --> 02:53:10,880
and the government just hasn't told me

4236
02:53:13,830 --> 02:53:12,560
it's theirs okay that's number one

4237
02:53:17,349 --> 02:53:13,840
number two

4238
02:53:18,230 --> 02:53:17,359
if i see an object and it's in a polar

4239
02:53:21,349 --> 02:53:18,240
orbit

4240
02:53:24,870 --> 02:53:21,359
does it do a zigzag will i care

4241
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:24,880
the answer is i will care

4242
02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:28,240
if the geometry of the situation

4243
02:53:35,190 --> 02:53:31,680
tells me it cannot be illuminated

4244
02:53:37,990 --> 02:53:35,200
by the sun therefore it's self-luminous

4245
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:38,000
and i'm damn sure going to record it now

4246
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:38,960
uh

4247
02:53:44,710 --> 02:53:42,000
it doesn't matter if it's night or day

4248
02:53:45,429 --> 02:53:44,720
with sky hub it's correct it doesn't

4249
02:53:50,230 --> 02:53:45,439
matter

4250
02:53:54,230 --> 02:53:50,240
the interface that is involved there

4251
02:53:57,269 --> 02:53:54,240
with your photo and video imaging

4252
02:53:58,230 --> 02:53:57,279
flir night vision all of this is

4253
02:54:00,469 --> 02:53:58,240
available

4254
02:54:02,309 --> 02:54:00,479
it doesn't matter what the what the what

4255
02:54:04,950 --> 02:54:02,319
the camera is right

4256
02:54:06,389 --> 02:54:04,960
so the the cam the fisheye and the pan

4257
02:54:09,590 --> 02:54:06,399
tilt zoom camera

4258
02:54:12,790 --> 02:54:09,600
we have are ir sensitive

4259
02:54:14,710 --> 02:54:12,800
really oh yeah the so they're so you

4260
02:54:16,950 --> 02:54:14,720
if you're if you're during the daylight

4261
02:54:19,510 --> 02:54:16,960
it's it's hard to use ir

4262
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:19,520
so you have an ir rejection filter which

4263
02:54:23,190 --> 02:54:21,040
is automatically clicked in

4264
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:23,200
so you'll have the right color balance

4265
02:54:26,950 --> 02:54:24,240
at night

4266
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:26,960
you don't care so you turn the ir filter

4267
02:54:31,510 --> 02:54:29,439
off and now it's sensitive to ir

4268
02:54:32,950 --> 02:54:31,520
i can't wait to get this i can't wait to

4269
02:54:34,230 --> 02:54:32,960
get the system i'm going to tell you

4270
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:34,240
that

4271
02:54:41,030 --> 02:54:37,600
my personal belief is the

4272
02:54:42,790 --> 02:54:41,040
uaps that were captured in houston

4273
02:54:44,710 --> 02:54:42,800
that i believe are on the sky hub

4274
02:54:46,790 --> 02:54:44,720
channel on youtube

4275
02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:46,800
they were caught because the fisheye had

4276
02:54:52,550 --> 02:54:49,200
ir okay so that's somewhat now

4277
02:54:55,670 --> 02:54:52,560
what else can we do so uh

4278
02:54:58,870 --> 02:54:55,680
i would love to pre to put a

4279
02:55:01,910 --> 02:54:58,880
diffraction grating on the front

4280
02:55:03,269 --> 02:55:01,920
of the camera of the pan tilt zoom and

4281
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:03,279
get a spectrum

4282
02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:05,200
because if i see something going

4283
02:55:09,510 --> 02:55:06,800
overhead

4284
02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:09,520
and i look at it with this diffraction

4285
02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:11,920
grating and i do a video of its spectrum

4286
02:55:15,429 --> 02:55:13,840
and this is not equivalent to the

4287
02:55:17,670 --> 02:55:15,439
spectrum of the sun

4288
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:17,680
it's not reflecting light that's coming

4289
02:55:21,910 --> 02:55:18,640
from the sun

4290
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:21,920
it's self-luminous and i care

4291
02:55:26,150 --> 02:55:23,680
it's going to be all sorts of stuff like

4292
02:55:28,790 --> 02:55:26,160
that and you can measure temperature

4293
02:55:30,309 --> 02:55:28,800
yeah yes if it's black body radiation

4294
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:30,319
right you know the spectrum

4295
02:55:34,469 --> 02:55:33,120
you know what its temperature is um

4296
02:55:37,830 --> 02:55:34,479
going back to

4297
02:55:39,590 --> 02:55:37,840
you know a flare type of image

4298
02:55:41,590 --> 02:55:39,600
um again we're just talking about the

4299
02:55:46,469 --> 02:55:41,600
camera and the filters

4300
02:55:49,510 --> 02:55:46,479
so you could see a hot side to a craft

4301
02:55:53,030 --> 02:55:49,520
right engines for example yep

4302
02:55:55,190 --> 02:55:53,040
and grenade aircraft yep

4303
02:55:56,070 --> 02:55:55,200
that's incredible it's absolutely

4304
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:56,080
incredible

4305
02:55:59,910 --> 02:55:58,240
um i want to ask you really quick i've

4306
02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:59,920
just got two minutes left bob and i

4307
02:56:02,710 --> 02:56:01,680
should have uh done this earlier in the

4308
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:02,720
show

4309
02:56:07,429 --> 02:56:05,680
uh 2021 is now in front of us there is a

4310
02:56:09,670 --> 02:56:07,439
lot of conversation

4311
02:56:10,870 --> 02:56:09,680
uh we have it every year in the ufo

4312
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:10,880
community

4313
02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:13,840
that this is the year right this is it

4314
02:56:20,150 --> 02:56:14,880
here we go

4315
02:56:29,429 --> 02:56:26,870
is it for you what can we expect in 2021

4316
02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:29,439
if things that are coming out in the

4317
02:56:33,110 --> 02:56:30,960
debrief in the next week

4318
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:33,120
are as interesting as i think they might

4319
02:56:37,110 --> 02:56:36,080
be i believe we're gonna get to learn a

4320
02:56:40,230 --> 02:56:37,120
lot of stuff

4321
02:56:41,670 --> 02:56:40,240
so that's number one number two even

4322
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:41,680
though

4323
02:56:46,630 --> 02:56:44,640
the rubio language from the senate

4324
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:46,640
select committee on intelligence

4325
02:56:50,230 --> 02:56:49,600
made it into the bill that then those

4326
02:56:52,870 --> 02:56:50,240
two bills

4327
02:56:53,990 --> 02:56:52,880
also funded the national defense

4328
02:56:57,190 --> 02:56:54,000
authorization act

4329
02:57:01,190 --> 02:56:57,200
and included funds for uaptf

4330
02:57:04,389 --> 02:57:01,200
the language about the public reporting

4331
02:57:07,429 --> 02:57:04,399
is only a suggestion we would

4332
02:57:09,990 --> 02:57:07,439
love it if you would give us a report

4333
02:57:11,830 --> 02:57:10,000
it did not say you're going to give us a

4334
02:57:12,230 --> 02:57:11,840
report or we're going to cut your things

4335
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:12,240
off

4336
02:57:17,670 --> 02:57:15,040
it's not law it's not law it's a

4337
02:57:20,710 --> 02:57:17,680
suggestion

4338
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:20,720
well thanks for that for that bummer

4339
02:57:23,830 --> 02:57:22,960
i i must tell you look you know me do

4340
02:57:25,830 --> 02:57:23,840
you know me dude

4341
02:57:28,150 --> 02:57:25,840
i don't tell you how it is i don't know

4342
02:57:29,349 --> 02:57:28,160
it's not it's not a mandate it's a

4343
02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:29,359
suggestion

4344
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:32,479
so the 180 day that is

4345
02:57:35,670 --> 02:57:34,640
is out there all over the net everybody

4346
02:57:38,710 --> 02:57:35,680
published uh

4347
02:57:39,030 --> 02:57:38,720
that knowledge right covered bill in

4348
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:39,040
here

4349
02:57:42,389 --> 02:57:41,120
we should have put the caveat it's in

4350
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:42,399
the covet bill

4351
02:57:46,469 --> 02:57:45,040
it's not defense authorization or

4352
02:57:49,429 --> 02:57:46,479
intelligence mandate

4353
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:49,439
it's please give us a report at the end

4354
02:57:55,190 --> 02:57:51,760
of 180 days

4355
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:55,200
now i hope they'll do it and it's up to

4356
02:58:00,070 --> 02:57:58,560
everyone hearing my voice and anybody

4357
02:58:02,830 --> 02:58:00,080
they can talk to

4358
02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:02,840
to call your congressman and rabble

4359
02:58:07,030 --> 02:58:04,479
rouse

4360
02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:07,040
thank you so much bob thank you so much

4361
02:58:11,110 --> 02:58:08,080
and uh

4362
02:58:14,070 --> 02:58:11,120
uh sky hub is

4363
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:14,080
is a really big deal and and i know that

4364
02:58:18,070 --> 02:58:15,040
uh the team

4365
02:58:20,630 --> 02:58:18,080
is is there uh to get this done

4366
02:58:21,510 --> 02:58:20,640
but i want to be one of the first okay

4367
02:58:24,550 --> 02:58:21,520
so

4368
02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:24,560
uh when this gets ready to kick off

4369
02:58:28,550 --> 02:58:26,560
uh fade to black is here to support you

4370
02:58:29,110 --> 02:58:28,560
for that but let's get you back on the

4371
02:58:32,309 --> 02:58:29,120
show

4372
02:58:35,590 --> 02:58:32,319
and uh i'll shoot some video

4373
02:58:37,269 --> 02:58:35,600
uh i'll present uh my own box

4374
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:37,279
and and let's make this thing happen

4375
02:58:39,830 --> 02:58:38,800
well the thing the thing i'm going to

4376
02:58:41,750 --> 02:58:39,840
urge you to do is

4377
02:58:43,030 --> 02:58:41,760
get some of the other guys involved

4378
02:58:45,990 --> 02:58:43,040
because they are just

4379
02:58:46,309 --> 02:58:46,000
super people and you haven't had them on

4380
02:58:49,190 --> 02:58:46,319
and

4381
02:58:50,389 --> 02:58:49,200
it i would love to have these people be

4382
02:58:51,910 --> 02:58:50,399
on and be seen

4383
02:58:53,510 --> 02:58:51,920
and talking to you and they will they

4384
02:58:56,150 --> 02:58:53,520
will do shows because they've done them

4385
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:56,160
and in addition to that we i'm just

4386
02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:57,120
going to be honest

4387
02:59:00,950 --> 02:59:00,160
we want to solicit support financial

4388
02:59:02,469 --> 02:59:00,960
from others

4389
02:59:04,389 --> 02:59:02,479
and the way you do that is get on these

4390
02:59:05,510 --> 02:59:04,399
shows and talk about it that way we can

4391
02:59:07,429 --> 02:59:05,520
afford more cloud

4392
02:59:09,429 --> 02:59:07,439
we can do more development that's just

4393
02:59:11,670 --> 02:59:09,439
the way it needs to be

4394
02:59:13,030 --> 02:59:11,680
i'll talk to you man hey happy new year

4395
02:59:16,230 --> 02:59:13,040
hey be safe

4396
02:59:18,309 --> 02:59:16,240
my best to you and the family and uh

4397
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:18,319
2021 is here let's make the best of it

4398
02:59:22,870 --> 02:59:19,840
thank you so much bob

4399
02:59:25,670 --> 02:59:22,880
see you brother that's bob mcguire

4400
02:59:26,870 --> 02:59:25,680
the absolute best and we just went we

4401
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:26,880
went pulled a poll

4402
02:59:29,990 --> 02:59:29,200
i gotta run credits right now before the

4403
02:59:33,790 --> 02:59:30,000
network

4404
02:59:35,190 --> 02:59:33,800
cuts me off thank you so much bob

4405
02:59:36,590 --> 02:59:35,200
skyhub.org

4406
02:59:38,630 --> 02:59:36,600
the links are over at

4407
02:59:39,750 --> 02:59:38,640
jimmychurchradio.com i'm really excited

4408
02:59:41,750 --> 02:59:39,760
about this

4409
02:59:44,710 --> 02:59:41,760
i'm telling you man we're gonna have the

4410
02:59:46,630 --> 02:59:44,720
fade to black edition

4411
02:59:48,469 --> 02:59:46,640
fade to black's executive producers rita

4412
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:48,479
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4413
02:59:51,910 --> 02:59:49,920
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4414
02:59:53,190 --> 02:59:51,920
announcers are steve harder gene vito

4415
02:59:55,590 --> 02:59:53,200
and mark d kobar

4416
02:59:58,349 --> 02:59:55,600
webmaster is drew the geek music doug

4417
03:00:00,230 --> 02:59:58,359
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4418
03:00:02,150 --> 03:00:00,240
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4419
03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:02,160
produced by kjcr for the game changer

4420
03:00:06,230 --> 03:00:03,040
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4421
03:00:08,309 --> 03:00:06,240
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4422
03:00:10,070 --> 03:00:08,319
the planet this broadcast owned a

4423
03:00:11,429 --> 03:00:10,080
copyrighted 2021 by

4424
03:00:13,750 --> 03:00:11,439
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4425
03:00:15,910 --> 03:00:13,760
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4426
03:00:18,070 --> 03:00:15,920
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4427
03:00:19,750 --> 03:00:18,080
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4428
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:19,760
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4429
03:00:22,309 --> 03:00:20,640
changer network

4430
03:00:24,710 --> 03:00:22,319
i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

4431
03:00:28,070 --> 03:00:24,720
night right here isaac

4432
03:00:29,990 --> 03:00:28,080
arthur future science

4433
03:00:31,910 --> 03:00:30,000
until tomorrow night i want everybody to

4434
03:00:41,910 --> 03:00:31,920
be safe